Naturism/nudism and the Bible

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TheLearner

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The Bible does not directly address this. So, principles come into play.
Can you do it to the glory of God?
Will it cause others to stumble in the faith?
Can you be there without lusting or sinning in anyway?
 

garee

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The Bible does not directly address this. So, principles come into play.
Can you do it to the glory of God?
Will it cause others to stumble in the faith?
Can you be there without lusting or sinning in anyway?
To the glory is our living hope...

I would agree many different theories . Glory seems to be the key. When the glory of God departs corruption the wrath of God begins.

The church is a representative glory of God who alone stands in the holy unseen place. Something happened in the twinkling of the eye in the beginning .

When mankind realized he was not clothed with the righteousness of Christ immediately they knew God had departed and the lack of light showed they were without God. Nakedness is a private affair with two walking together as one light. The two become one.

It would appear as a result of the corruption they saw each other separately. . . . through a new kind of sight as in out of sight out of mind.( No faith) . It caused a blindness to the things revealed by faith.... neither could they hear his voice after he departed .

Thankfully he gives us the gospel eyes and ears to hear as we eat of the fruit of His righteousness our tree of spirit life.

Isaiah 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

The Ark as a metaphor or shadow represented of the unseen glory of God

1 Samuel 4:21 And she named the child Ichabod, saying, The glory is departed from Israel: because the ark of God was taken, and because of her father in law and her husband.And she said, The glory is departed from Israel: for the ark of God is taken.
 

garee

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apparently has not actually learned :sneaky:
LOL Learned what? :cry:

Getting dressed in the righteousness of Christ, as the glory of God? What do you think happened in the twinkling of the eye? Who told her she was naked? Did someone open up her eyes as a new way of seeing things. as in out of sight out of mind...No faith?

Their clothes wore out until they could find some more leaves? Got a better idea?

Your turn to shine. LOL
 

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I'm a blood bought spirit filled child of the Living God. I am also a naturist now I am in predicament what is the Bible's stance on naturism?
Unfotunately the view of nakedness is the same as being unclean.

A priest could not go up steps incase they exposed something.
26 And do not go up to my altar on steps, lest your nakedness be exposed on it.
Exodus 20

Noah was exposed when drunk which was seen as dishonouring to him.

23> But Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it across their shoulders; then they walked in backward and covered their father's nakedness. Their faces were turned the other way so that they would not see their father's nakedness.
Gen 9

36 This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because you poured out your wealth and exposed your nakedness in your promiscuity with your lovers, and because of all your detestable idols, and because you gave them your children's blood,
37 therefore I am going to gather all your lovers, with whom you found pleasure, those you loved as well as those you hated. I will gather them against you from all around and will strip you in front of them, and they will see all your nakedness.
38 I will sentence you to the punishment of women who commit adultery and who shed blood; I will bring upon you the blood vengeance of my wrath and jealous anger.
Eze 16

Nakedness in culture is a sign of vulnerability and possession. Slaves are naked, owners are not.
 

7seasrekeyed

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psssst

wouter was last seen in January of 2015

unlikely to answer

on the other hand, check post 115 for more recent interactions
 

TheLearner

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Unfotunately the view of nakedness is the same as being unclean.

A priest could not go up steps incase they exposed something.
26 And do not go up to my altar on steps, lest your nakedness be exposed on it.
Exodus 20

Noah was exposed when drunk which was seen as dishonouring to him.

23> But Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it across their shoulders; then they walked in backward and covered their father's nakedness. Their faces were turned the other way so that they would not see their father's nakedness.
Gen 9

36 This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Because you poured out your wealth and exposed your nakedness in your promiscuity with your lovers, and because of all your detestable idols, and because you gave them your children's blood,
37 therefore I am going to gather all your lovers, with whom you found pleasure, those you loved as well as those you hated. I will gather them against you from all around and will strip you in front of them, and they will see all your nakedness.
38 I will sentence you to the punishment of women who commit adultery and who shed blood; I will bring upon you the blood vengeance of my wrath and jealous anger.
Eze 16

Nakedness in culture is a sign of vulnerability and possession. Slaves are naked, owners are not.
The tradition based on the language is that he had sexual relations with Noah. Thus is why Cain was cursed.
 

Gregoryp

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clothing is the facade of the world, the illusion and the lie. Its one of the ways we are seperate from God, by covering ourselves. It also defines us, some where $1200 suits, others jeans and a t shirt with Van Halen images on it. It is not who mankind truthfully is, we are all in this together. Nakedness was used to punish mankind because of their traditions. As I have posted previously, I find it profoundly spiritual being naked, and so free. I am as God intended all along.
 

maxwel

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Strangeness of Post

The OP made one post, several months ago, and disappeared.

That one post is on an issue that would ONLY be interesting, controversial, or ethically complicated to a complete non-believer.

That one post, in modern culture, would be VERY interesting and salacious in a political discussion, or in a sociology discussion... it would be quite boring, anemic, and easily resolved in any discussion of theology or practical ministry.


My Conclusion?

It seems more like a sociology experiment than a legitimate post.

Just thinking out loud.

..
 

Gregoryp

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Strangeness of Post

The OP made one post, several months ago, and disappeared.

That one post is on an issue that would ONLY be interesting, controversial, or ethically complicated to a complete non-believer.

That one post, in modern culture, would be VERY interesting and salacious in a political discussion, or in a sociology discussion... it would be quite boring, anemic, and easily resolved in any discussion of theology or practical ministry.


My Conclusion?

It seems more like a sociology experiment than a legitimate post.

Just thinking out loud.

..
I have had catholic friends who almost live at the cathedral, preach catholic doctrine. As soon as I mentioned I love being naked, they went crazy, claimed it was a detestable act and a terrible sin. Apparently everyone should be covered head to toe and Gods glory hidden from view. Ridiculous
 

7seasrekeyed

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Strangeness of Post

The OP made one post, several months ago, and disappeared.

That one post is on an issue that would ONLY be interesting, controversial, or ethically complicated to a complete non-believer.

That one post, in modern culture, would be VERY interesting and salacious in a political discussion, or in a sociology discussion... it would be quite boring, anemic, and easily resolved in any discussion of theology or practical ministry.


My Conclusion?

It seems more like a sociology experiment than a legitimate post.

Just thinking out loud.

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depends

if you lived in Europe, possibly not so much
 

TheLearner

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clothing is the facade of the world, the illusion and the lie. Its one of the ways we are seperate from God, by covering ourselves. It also defines us, some where $1200 suits, others jeans and a t shirt with Van Halen images on it. It is not who mankind truthfully is, we are all in this together. Nakedness was used to punish mankind because of their traditions. As I have posted previously, I find it profoundly spiritual being naked, and so free. I am as God intended all along.
1 Timothy 2:9
I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes.
 

maxwel

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I have had catholic friends who almost live at the cathedral, preach catholic doctrine. As soon as I mentioned I love being naked, they went crazy, claimed it was a detestable act and a terrible sin. Apparently everyone should be covered head to toe and Gods glory hidden from view. Ridiculous
If you say and do crazy things, acting and thinking like an unconverted person, and people treat you like you're crazy and unconverted... they aren't being ridiculous.

That is a rational response.


If you act like the unconverted, and people treat you like you're unconverted... that is a rational response.

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Jackson123

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Some muslim woman cover almost every part of the body except eyes

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The Bible does not directly address this. So, principles come into play.
Can you do it to the glory of God?
Will it cause others to stumble in the faith?
Can you be there without lusting or sinning in anyway?
There are many teachings on modesty, humility and more which should more than erase any ideas of parading onself to show off his or her carnal assets, but perhaps I am just being difficult.
 

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There are many teachings on modesty, humility and more which should more than erase any ideas of parading onself to show off his or her carnal assets, but perhaps I am just being difficult.
For a Christian chat page, their sure is a lot of people who don't understand scripture. And no I am not explaining ut
 

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2 Sam 6:20 ... one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!

Bible says that would be vain and shameful

2 Sam 13:13 ... and as for thee, thou shalt be as one of the fools in Israel.
Wow you severely butchered and twisted that scripture.
This is what that passage actually says.

But when David returned to bless his household, Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David and said, “How the king of Israel distinguished himself today! He uncovered himself today in the eyes of his servants’ maids as one of the foolish ones shamelessly uncovers himself!” So David said to Michal, “ It was before the Lord , who chose me above your father and above all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the Lord , over Israel; therefore I will celebrate before the Lord . I will be more lightly esteemed than this and will be humble in my own eyes, but with the maids of whom you have spoken, with them I will be distinguished.” Michal the daughter of Saul had no child to the day of her death.
2 Samuel 6:20‭-‬23 NASB

Yes Michal made that accusation and was rebuked for it. And quite harshly for that matter.

This person asked for biblical answer to his preferred life style. And the truth is that there are two arch principles in the Bible to govern us when it comes to these things.

1. Does this action cause us to be tempted to known sin. For example Jesus said if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart you are guilty of sin.
2. do you cause another person to fall into sin. You can use the same quote from Jesus.
The idea is as Paul wrote,
But take care that this liberty of yours does not somehow become a stumbling block to the weak.
1 Corinthians 8:9 NASB
(And yes he is talking about meat sacrificed to idols, the principal, of don't be a stumbling block to your bretheren applies).

So if you answer both these questions with no, and your heart is pure toward God. Then what does the scripture say?
To the pure, all things are pure; but to those who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure, but both their mind and their conscience are defiled. They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed.
Titus 1:15‭-‬16 NASB

You have to judge yourself and decide if what you are doing is actually indulging the flesh or if you are in good conscience and not creating a stumbling block for others.