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Oct 12, 2013
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Ok... so I'm stuck a bit. I know that one needs to be Baptised with water, Spirit and should have given your heart to the Lord to qualify to enter or even perceive the Kingdom of God. I do realise that it is actually a secret, yet a very important commandment that we should first seek God's Kingdom.

I'm curious how many experienced entering or perceiving the Kingdom of God. I would like to know what I'm missing, cause I feel like I'm in a loop. I sin therefore I cannot enter. The only way I can enter is if I don't sin. I feel like the words of Paul that which I don't want to do I do, etc. Yet I still feel stuck. I've perceived so much of God working. But I constantly feel like I'm missing a crucial point of His Kingdom. Even if someone could just tell me that they have been there it would be nice, cause a lot of people don't even know what I'm talking about and it is extremely frustrating.
Okay, I have been there and done that, I am not concerned without being baptized according to a law, but baptized by the Holy Spirit.
You are young and will make mistakes, I did at your age, temptations are strong then and emotions run high. but, if you are aware of your sins all you have to do is repent of them. You sound sincere and I am sure God hears your cries. Have patience and your conscience will keep you from falling any further.
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Ok... so I'm stuck a bit. I know that one needs to be Baptised with water, Spirit and should have given your heart to the Lord to qualify to enter or even perceive the Kingdom of God. I do realise that it is actually a secret, yet a very important commandment that we should first seek God's Kingdom.

I'm curious how many experienced entering or perceiving the Kingdom of God. I would like to know what I'm missing, cause I feel like I'm in a loop. I sin therefore I cannot enter. The only way I can enter is if I don't sin. I feel like the words of Paul that which I don't want to do I do, etc. Yet I still feel stuck. I've perceived so much of God working. But I constantly feel like I'm missing a crucial point of His Kingdom. Even if someone could just tell me that they have been there it would be nice, cause a lot of people don't even know what I'm talking about and it is extremely frustrating.
The kingdom of God is in you. Sin does not mean you are outside the kingdom. Paul said he was the chiefest of sinners. He said the sin I do not want to do, I do anyway. All we can do is fight with our sinful nature and when we fail, we confess our sins to God and get back in the saddle.

You are in the kingdom right now, because Jesus is your King.
 
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Ok... so I'm stuck a bit. I know that one needs to be Baptised with water, Spirit and should have given your heart to the Lord to qualify to enter or even perceive the Kingdom of God. I do realise that it is actually a secret, yet a very important commandment that we should first seek God's Kingdom.

I'm curious how many experienced entering or perceiving the Kingdom of God. I would like to know what I'm missing, cause I feel like I'm in a loop. I sin therefore I cannot enter. The only way I can enter is if I don't sin. I feel like the words of Paul that which I don't want to do I do, etc. Yet I still feel stuck. I've perceived so much of God working. But I constantly feel like I'm missing a crucial point of His Kingdom. Even if someone could just tell me that they have been there it would be nice, cause a lot of people don't even know what I'm talking about and it is extremely frustrating.
My dear brother, I live in the kingdom of God. So what does it mean, what is it like and how do we enter? To be honest, I entered without even knowing or understanding that which I entered. What I felt and experienced I did not even understand.
The entirety of the new testament is completely about the Kingdom of God yet I never heard it preached or taught. I came to be where I am by listening to the holy spirit prompting me and doing what I was told.

First let me tell you what the kingdom of God is like. Many parables in scripture describe it but I can give you a first hand account. I live within infinity and infinity lives within me. People call God a trinity yet God is far more than a trinity, HE is an infinity. Imagine infinite peace. Imagine infinite love. Imagine infinite hope and purity and beauty and comfort.

Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,

The kingdom of God is like living in perfection and having perfection living within you. Living in God and having God living in you. It is unimaginable. There is no anxiety, no fear, no anger no offense. IT is living in perfect love and truth and peace and power that can not come from ourselves or from within us but only from God. This is why it is written;

John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.

Because it is the power of God's spirit from within me that has brought me to live within God's kingdom. LEts look at one more verse then I will perhaps make another post if anyone is interested.

Luke 18:17 Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”

This verse is all about humility. We have to always be willing to be wrong about everything. We have to always take the lowest position. we need this attitude:

1 Timothy 1:15 Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst.

But not only the attitude but living and practicing our lives with this truth. This means forgiving everyone everything even before they repent or apologize just as God did for us which personally I found impossible without relying on God. Remember:

Matthew 21:31 “Which of the two did what his father wanted?” “The first,” they answered. Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.

IT isn't about not sinning. None of us are without sin and I am a sinner just like you. IT is about humility, love and trust in God and about not quenching the holy spirit.

1 Thessalonians 5:19 Do not quench the Spirit.

There is a third baptism that you missed, that in fact you are enduring right now. This is the baptism of fire.

Matthew 3:11 “I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

We confess our sins(in front of many witnesses) and are baptized with water (then continue to confess our sins one to another so we remain pure as God purifies us as we confess our sins) We ask God for HIs spirit and receive it(how much more will your father in heaven give the holy spirit to those who ask Him)(born again) then our faith is tested and purified by trials which is a baptism of fire, just as fire refines gold and other metals so too trials refine our faith if we trust God through each trial.

As it is I have written too many words. IF anyone has any questions for me ask and I will respond.
All glory and honor and power always be to our God and father through whom all good things come