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slave

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Jesus has taught us in no uncertain terms to judge. No not to condemnation but for ourselves what is right. He told the Pharisees to judge for yourselves what is right.......otherwise they were just more hypocrites.

It is not right to do many things, but these things we keep to ourselves in the sight of God that we are not guilty of hypocrisy.

I do know if I love someone I will certainly be there for them whether it is to correct them in tough love or in the gentle. It does take both you know. Even Jesus was pretty hard on many when He gave us th good new. <onr indysvr esd ehrrn yhr msn vsllrf <him Hoof, snf <hr sndertrf him dsyinh, "Who are you to call Me good, only God is good." Of course He knew He is God, but others were not yet convinced, the man with whom He was speaking in particular.


Love does not always dictate a soft approach, actually it dictates a stern approach much of the time, so let us be stern without reproaching others.
It takes a calm and confident approach; even a serious one at times; but I wouldn't go as far as to say a stern approach, unless you are talking about satan, then by all means stern! The reason I say that is because although stern can mean simply serious too, it also has a frowning affect emotionally, and I am told to give hope thru the good news of Christ. So, I am not trying to say you can't call it that, but for me saying serious allows a smile still to exist. That's just me so...

And of course, judging for yourself is not the same as judging others. It is thinking, learning, discerning, applying our conclusions in application, and accountability to God, letting the wrestling happen (or meditation) between the Spirit's communications to our spirit be set to have the spirit by our volition run the ship, in essence then also meaning to allow ourselves to put to death the things of the flesh as we process thru righteousness our judging via our Christ-like self.

This process of the Holy Spirit transforming our minds thru communicating with our spirit which translates to a revelation of God's truth applied to our brains via our heart which then ( by our soul under our spirits directives) produces a learned result, (or a change in behavior) acting out via our body members. Whew! He swipes his brow sucking in air....Smile.:eek:...

I agree we do love with tough love sometimes as God so leads us. But this is never in way of our judgement or cynicism, it is still in way of our obedience to what Christ makes clear for us to say and do in love. Meaning some things in scripture will wrought us out in relationship to sin...and if God gives you those things this will simply happen. That's why the world doesn't just disagree with us, they hate us.(Along with satans campaign)

Yes, tough love comes with simply loving people and being loyal to His whole Word. And when that happens we need to let them go thru the conviction experience while being there alongside them. It is easy, at that point, to criticize the power of the Word working if we empathize with the burden on there heart more than the work being done in love to bear life, because we want only happiness to exist for people, and we are tempted to become lukewarm in Christ to prevent it.

But, we cannot prevent what God must have us each go thru in way of conviction. We must give God elbow room to let Him do His Workmanship; to finish us as clay pieces to become as beautiful as He has made us to be, even seeing it before our arrival. So we must just comfort and give Jesus' promises alongside with the (soul and spirit splitting double-edged Sword) working truth of His Word. There is never a harshness or a weight to God's Word, only a burden of truth which when understood by the recipient is understood to be God's love for wanting their best for them which frees them.
 
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mar09

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Hardness comes from judgement and I mean condemnation here not discernment of the spirit for visions of need to love them all the more. If we are to rebuke or correct we are to let the active and alive Word do that, not our judgements. For how can we judge? If God is the only one to know the hearts of man how can you judge at all. And how can you ignore God's warning? Do not judge lest ye be judged? Love does always dictate a soft approach, and a gentle and respectful demeanor, even when God will judge the hearts of men. This is our Co-working with Christ. Our job is to not do anything that God has not commissioned us to do. And He says not to judge. This is not discernment, which He does expect us all to do in testing the spirits; and evaluating the needs of man, to help reconcile men to Himself as we lift Jesus up, so as to let Him draw all men to Himself.

Your emotions are to be buried, and used no more - that is the flesh. We are to only use the Spirit's emotions within yourself. We have no place that is independent of Christ being first in all things. God knows if we were to judge we would not stay wrapped in love and would become prideful. So, we are to love men in truth. This does put conviction into mens hearts, that results in a burden of love laid within them, to come to grips with the truths of Spiritual truths, but only by way of the Holy Spirit and not by way of our righteous indignation applied by a false doctrine of judgement made to serve man in love.
I have heard this said by someone in the family phrased a little differently.
 

JaumeJ

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Good morning all. By stern, perhahps the word resolve should come to mind. Truth should never suffer at the guise of being kind. When we love, we stick totally to the truth, even if we are crucifed for doing so.