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Christ is all these things, our source of righteousness, sanctification and redemption.
You say I am spreading false doctrine, but you cannot show me were, other than I do not
accept your interpretation.
We are not righteous because of our understanding of being reconned by faith, or its is Christs
righteousness,, God loves us and communes with us. When I pray I bring
my heart to Him and go through the issues. I know I am right with Him, exactly how in words,
becomes clearer over time. You want a safe set of words. God bless you, I want to encourage
anyone who loves Jesus. Why, because that is where our life comes from.
And I know some very wakey people. In time the good soil will show. God bless you.
You say I am spreading false doctrine, but you cannot show me were, other than I do not
accept your interpretation.
We are not righteous because of our understanding of being reconned by faith, or its is Christs
righteousness,, God loves us and communes with us. When I pray I bring
my heart to Him and go through the issues. I know I am right with Him, exactly how in words,
becomes clearer over time. You want a safe set of words. God bless you, I want to encourage
anyone who loves Jesus. Why, because that is where our life comes from.
And I know some very wakey people. In time the good soil will show. God bless you.
cc members
One guy I met on cc.. He knew verses that expressed an idea that He could quote, but could
not say why.
It really does take time to take a whole framework and start to see it, and then express it outside
of just quoting verses. So please until you see my point, saying it is wrong without showing
why when I can show exactly why, is not a good position. God is our teacher not man, and
simple diagrams often simplify too much.
And I follow no particular single school, rather I am an evangelical charismatic Baptist.
And I am here to share, encourage and learn. And I am learning most are so scared they
fight and attack before just talking nicely.
One guy I met on cc.. He knew verses that expressed an idea that He could quote, but could
not say why.
It really does take time to take a whole framework and start to see it, and then express it outside
of just quoting verses. So please until you see my point, saying it is wrong without showing
why when I can show exactly why, is not a good position. God is our teacher not man, and
simple diagrams often simplify too much.
And I follow no particular single school, rather I am an evangelical charismatic Baptist.
And I am here to share, encourage and learn. And I am learning most are so scared they
fight and attack before just talking nicely.
Okay have it your way, I do not have a lawn to mow; you continually misapply scripture like you did here with Romans13;10. Maybe I just want to mow my neighbor's lawn to show him the love of God. whether he is disabled or not has no effect on whomever I show God's love to. Are you serious, I should not show God's love, (mow the lawn), lets say to my Pastor because he is "not" disabled. Sorry I'm saying go bye to you and your false gospel. "Back to the land that time forgot, Ignoredom"
"That, and you say the cross is not enough."
the cross isnt enough.....Jesus Christ, The Word of God is enough. the cross is made of wood and nails it has no value but for death it is an instrument of death. However the One who God sent into the World, to teach and preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, and then Die and beraised again and eventually send the Holy spirit to His disciples He is More than enough. His word is essential, His death and resurrection essential. without His Word the rest Means nothing.
There, we have another one.
You show you do not know the meaning of nor the value of "the cross" and equate it then as of "no value" in your ignorance. Thus; "For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing..." 1 Corinthians 1:18. This isn't mere wood and nails, it means much more.
You're making pretense that "someone" has divorced the message of the cross from the Word. This hasn't happened.
"The word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing..."
The cross is enough.
You show you do not know the meaning of nor the value of "the cross" and equate it then as of "no value" in your ignorance. Thus; "For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing..." 1 Corinthians 1:18. This isn't mere wood and nails, it means much more.
You're making pretense that "someone" has divorced the message of the cross from the Word. This hasn't happened.
"The word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing..."
The cross is enough.
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If Christ is your righteousness, then it means you are still lost in your sin, unforgiving
and defiled. A holy object is Holy. It is not defiled but regarded as Holy because God
is Holy.
This is like saying I have a clean car because my neighbours is clean and looking
down the street you can only see my neighbours car.
And you are prepared to stand before God with this idea. You need a lot of help in
what Jesus came to do, because you are still lost by you own theology.
And no wonder you know no better, to compromise like you have means your real
state has never touched you. Why is it so hard to repent and accept you are forgiven?
and defiled. A holy object is Holy. It is not defiled but regarded as Holy because God
is Holy.
This is like saying I have a clean car because my neighbours is clean and looking
down the street you can only see my neighbours car.
And you are prepared to stand before God with this idea. You need a lot of help in
what Jesus came to do, because you are still lost by you own theology.
And no wonder you know no better, to compromise like you have means your real
state has never touched you. Why is it so hard to repent and accept you are forgiven?
So the gospel you have, "the real gospel" is according to yo; but you say "you have no gospel" however you do have the, "actual Gospel of Jesus Christ and share that." As a side note Jesus Commissioned us to preach the gospel note share. So your post begs the question; do you "reject", that the four gospel's in the New Testament are "invented by man" and then you suggest that we should, "go to the real gospel" and where can we expect to find this "real gospel"
I do not want change the topic of this thread, but if anyone wants to know how I feel about the Football Players that disrespected the flag over the weekend, I revived an old Thread:
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...iblical-but-dying-america-16.html#post3288339
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...iblical-but-dying-america-16.html#post3288339
Missionaries use the Cross to teach unsaved people all around the world about Jesus' sacrifice for our sin's. Are you saying that this is a useless effort to preach the gospel to folks who do not understand Jesus Sacrifice by using a tangible object, like "The Cross" and they should stop doing this. You say; the cross is wood and nails and has no value, are you serious.
Thank you for illistrating How some work on Here the same way certain people pluck a bible verse out of its context is what you just did there Let me show you.
this is what you grabbed " the cross is not enough" and this is what i wrote
the cross isnt enough.....Jesus Christ, The Word of God is enough. the cross is made of wood and nails it has no value but for death it is an instrument of death. However the One who God sent into the World, to teach and preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, and then Die and beraised again and eventually send the Holy spirit to His disciples He is More than enough. His word is essential, His death and resurrection essential. without His Word the rest Means nothing.
its exactly what some do with scripture Here anyone can read a chapter pluck one verse and make thier own point, that is far different than actually seeing whats Being said. i will echoe again the cross is nothing without Jesus Christ and His Word. it means no more than any o9ther crucifixion without Jesus Christ, His blood shed , His Life Given and His word spoken. it is what it is you or anyone else can try to find salvation in two peices of wood that Killed Our savior.....My self and others will find salvation in Jesus Christ, in His Life death and resurrection, equally along with His Words.
there is no Gospel without the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, the crucifixion is an essential part of the Gospel, as are the Teachings of Jesus Christ. No value if we seperate the 2. cant obey into salvation without Jesus and His death and resurrection, the spirit He sent afterwards, and you cant omit His word and depend on a wooden death instrument for salvation. if you remove His Death and resurrection wont work, if you remove His Word, wont work.
so you got me correct i do not worship the cross, i Honor and follow the Son of God who endured the cross on my Behalf. Thats what the Gospel is all about. but you know Hey you can probably pluck a half of sentance again and make a nonsensical argument to it. really though the cross means zero without The Son of God and His Gospel. <<<<< can you Honestly disagree with this? do you suppose we can ignore Jesus and be saved By a cross????
the gog that teaches you guys to ignore the Gospel ministry of Jesus and claims its " the Mosaic Law" is a farce and a poison jug of coolaid.
this is what you grabbed " the cross is not enough" and this is what i wrote
the cross isnt enough.....Jesus Christ, The Word of God is enough. the cross is made of wood and nails it has no value but for death it is an instrument of death. However the One who God sent into the World, to teach and preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, and then Die and beraised again and eventually send the Holy spirit to His disciples He is More than enough. His word is essential, His death and resurrection essential. without His Word the rest Means nothing.
its exactly what some do with scripture Here anyone can read a chapter pluck one verse and make thier own point, that is far different than actually seeing whats Being said. i will echoe again the cross is nothing without Jesus Christ and His Word. it means no more than any o9ther crucifixion without Jesus Christ, His blood shed , His Life Given and His word spoken. it is what it is you or anyone else can try to find salvation in two peices of wood that Killed Our savior.....My self and others will find salvation in Jesus Christ, in His Life death and resurrection, equally along with His Words.
there is no Gospel without the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, the crucifixion is an essential part of the Gospel, as are the Teachings of Jesus Christ. No value if we seperate the 2. cant obey into salvation without Jesus and His death and resurrection, the spirit He sent afterwards, and you cant omit His word and depend on a wooden death instrument for salvation. if you remove His Death and resurrection wont work, if you remove His Word, wont work.
so you got me correct i do not worship the cross, i Honor and follow the Son of God who endured the cross on my Behalf. Thats what the Gospel is all about. but you know Hey you can probably pluck a half of sentance again and make a nonsensical argument to it. really though the cross means zero without The Son of God and His Gospel. <<<<< can you Honestly disagree with this? do you suppose we can ignore Jesus and be saved By a cross????
the gog that teaches you guys to ignore the Gospel ministry of Jesus and claims its " the Mosaic Law" is a farce and a poison jug of coolaid.
again im saying exactly what I said Here you go this is what i said
the cross isnt enough.....Jesus Christ, The Word of God is enough. the cross is made of wood and nails it has no value but for death it is an instrument of death. However the One who God sent into the World, to teach and preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, and then Die and beraised again and eventually send the Holy spirit to His disciples He is More than enough. His word is essential, His death and resurrection essential. without His Word the rest Means nothing."
Missionaries, a field in which i have worked, do teach the death and resurrection, of course, they do not teach anyone that the cross is salvation alone. in truth, the empty tomb is of far more value than the cross. the death of Jesus is essential to our faith, the resurrection is essential, Gods Word is absolutely essential. we do not and cannot be savedby a cross, We are saved By Jesus Christ and all He did and said. thats Christianity, the cross is of Great value when someone accepts Gods Word, it is not if we try to just take the cross out of the rest.
the cross isnt enough.....Jesus Christ, The Word of God is enough. the cross is made of wood and nails it has no value but for death it is an instrument of death. However the One who God sent into the World, to teach and preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, and then Die and beraised again and eventually send the Holy spirit to His disciples He is More than enough. His word is essential, His death and resurrection essential. without His Word the rest Means nothing."
Missionaries, a field in which i have worked, do teach the death and resurrection, of course, they do not teach anyone that the cross is salvation alone. in truth, the empty tomb is of far more value than the cross. the death of Jesus is essential to our faith, the resurrection is essential, Gods Word is absolutely essential. we do not and cannot be savedby a cross, We are saved By Jesus Christ and all He did and said. thats Christianity, the cross is of Great value when someone accepts Gods Word, it is not if we try to just take the cross out of the rest.
We are saved by Jesus spilled blood on the Cross. The Cross is of great value for eternity and a day, not just when you think it is appropriate. The Cross is of great value for the world to see not just, "when someone accepts God's Word. You last sentence is nonsense; "it is not if we try to just take the cross out of the rest."
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