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any i bid you all a god bless coz God blesses those who bless his... (a cookie reward).. yes now i am worthy of my wage which is my daily santification..God bless yas
 
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Now you calling me a NAZI.....nice JIMMY.......is this grounds to be banned?
LoL I SAID YOU WHERE BEHAVING LIKE ONE.. there is a diffrence :)

Besides wasnt it you who speaking nazi in my fighting for freedom thread ?:D
 
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for most part billy jesus is the works in you but for some part billy the works must also come from you...

that is why so many men from the old t walked rightously..
This is right Jimbo.
Justification is totally a work of God.
Sanctification, which is a daily walk, is a cooperation between us and God.
The Holy Spirit helps us to do the will of God.

What some do not seem to understand is that there are two different words used to describe God's work in us.

Otherwise, if Everything depended only on God working, there would have been only One word used!
 
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This is right Jimbo.
Justification is totally a work of God.
Sanctification, which is a daily walk, is a cooperation between us and God.
The Holy Spirit helps us to do the will of God.

What some do not seem to understand is that there are two different words used to describe SANCTIFICATION

Otherwise, if Everything depended only on God working, there would have been only One word used!
I fixed it for you.........notice the PAST TENSE of sanctified and PERFECTED.....

New American Standard Bible
For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.
King James Bible
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
 

blue_ladybug

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Back up the truck and put it in park. The red highlighted is exactly what you said to Dcon. You did NOT say he was behaving like a Nazi. You said he needed to stop BEING a Nazi.. You're busted..lol


are you a nazy cos you sure do use the words lies alot... over here when we take the mick out of germans we say u lie u lie twenty times coz theres always accusing everyone of lieing including the poor jews..

Now i plead with you to stop being a nazy..God bless
LoL I SAID YOU WHERE BEHAVING LIKE ONE.. there is a diffrence :)

Besides wasnt it you who speaking nazi in my fighting for freedom thread ?:D
 
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Back up the truck and put it in park. The red highlighted is exactly what you said to Dcon. You did NOT say he was behaving like a Nazi. You said he needed to stop BEING a Nazi.. You're busted..lol


Good thing I am not easily offended by ignorance.........calling someone a NAZI is beyond the normal rhetoric......
 
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Back up the truck and put it in park. The red highlighted is exactly what you said to Dcon. You did NOT say he was behaving like a Nazi. You said he needed to stop BEING a Nazi.. You're busted..lol


hahaha your hilarious i said he need to stop being one coz i know hes not one... big diffrence.. its just a shame you dont see that i was explaining to him he was behaving like one... meaning do you realize your behaviour ...

Now sis if you dont see this the truth is not in you and your still ok in my book but please dont be a mrs meany..
 
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anyhows thanks for the exercution dc mr lord exercutioner :rolleyes:
 
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I fixed it for you.........notice the PAST TENSE of sanctified and PERFECTED.....

New American Standard Bible
For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.
King James Bible
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Why do persons on this forum not post book, chapter and verse?
Please explain the difference between justification and sanctification?
 

blue_ladybug

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I think YOU need to read it again. NOWHERE does it say that he is ACTING like a nazi. You flat out called him one.
go and read it again it stays you are behaving like one..
Originally Posted by JIMBO43

are you a nazy cos you sure do use the words lies alot... over here when we take the mick out of germans we say u lie u lie twenty times coz theres always accusing everyone of lieing including the poor jews..

Now i plead with you to stop being a nazy..God bless
 
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Why do persons on this forum not post book, chapter and verse?
Please explain the difference between justification and sanctification?
Justified-->a legal term, rendered innocent even in light of overwhelming evidence of guilt
Sanctified is dual in application.

The one referenced is positionally in Christ as SET APART

and NO one disputes our daily lives and the sanctification that comes through following the word, being obedient and confessing sin

The scripture is found in Hebrews.......you do have google right
 
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I think YOU need to read it again. NOWHERE does it say that he is ACTING like a nazi. You flat out called him one.

Originally Posted by JIMBO43

are you a nazy cos you sure do use the words lies alot... over here when we take the mick out of germans we say u lie u lie twenty times coz theres always accusing everyone of lieing including the poor jews..

Now i plead with you to stop being a nazy..God bless
Always a dual standard.......call them out and all of a sudden they did not say what they said........
 

blue_ladybug

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Your post here makes not a lick of sense. If you KNOW he's not a nazi, then why even call him one? He could compare you to a nazi, but he hasn't..

And that's Ms. Ladybug to you.. ;) LOL


hahaha your hilarious i said he need to stop being one coz i know hes not one... big diffrence.. its just a shame you dont see that i was explaining to him he was behaving like one... meaning do you realize your behaviour ...

Now sis if you dont see this the truth is not in you and your still ok in my book but please dont be a mrs meany..
 

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Hi Fran maybe the following will help

https://www.gotquestions.org/justification.html

https://www.gotquestions.org/sanctification.html

I do have stuff on this in my library but the above explains it better than I do
I know the difference Bill. I taught it till about two years ago.
It just seems some here don't understand it.
Check out post no. 4514. It seems like both expressions mean the same thing from that explanation.
It's essential to understand the difference and that we must participate in sanctification.

God will justify us, but He will not also do all the work of sanctifying us. This is not to be confused with the finished work of Jesus.

Tomorrow...
 
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I know the difference Bill. I taught it till about two years ago.
It just seems some here don't understand it.
Check out post no. 4514. It seems like both expressions mean the same thing from that explanation.
It's essential to understand the difference and that we must participate in sanctification.

God will justify us, but He will not also do all the work of sanctifying us. This is not to be confused with the finished work of Jesus.

Tomorrow...
Not hardly Fran.....the spirit is sanctified positionally in Christ eternally

The flesh and our walk needs daily sanctification....

it is not that hard to grasp unless one is not saved or refuses to acknowledge the truth