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loveme1

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Am glad VCO contacted chat again. I hope he comes back on if he feels up to it.

Home or at hospital VCO?
Get well soon Mr VCO..

May you be comforted and strengthened by GOD’s Grace always in Christ our Lord.
 

loveme1

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Workers for attempting to climb the mountain of works to salvation....will never quite make it......

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy has he saved us
Mountains are moved by Faith... if we Believe and doubt not.. according to His Mercy has He Saved us..

How does the servant increase their Faith?
 

Nehemiah6

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Mountains are moved by Faith... if we Believe and doubt not.. according to His Mercy has He Saved us..

How does the servant increase their Faith?
Had you added "as little as a mustard seed" in the first clause, you would have your answer in the last question.

Mustard seeds are tiny, so that is all it takes. Believe it!

But this is not related to salvation by grace through faith. It is related to the good works which follow. And there is also a spiritual gift of faith -- which in my estimation would be extraordinary faith.
 

loveme1

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Had you added "as little as a mustard seed" in the first clause, you would have your answer in the last question.

Mustard seeds are tiny, so that is all it takes. Believe it!

But this is not related to salvation by grace through faith. It is related to the good works which follow. And there is also a spiritual gift of faith -- which in my estimation would be extraordinary faith.

Did I say we work to be saved?

The question is answered by the Lord Himself regarding increasing..

We work because we were saved.... and are actually Saved Believers who do what they are instructed by their Saviour...counting themselves unworthy servants...


The Mountain can be moved by Faith...


So any instruction given by the Lord does not need unbelief and a no can do... Believe and be willing..
 

notmyown

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Did I say we work to be saved?

The question is answered by the Lord Himself regarding increasing..

We work because we were saved.... and are actually Saved Believers who do what they are instructed by their Saviour...counting themselves unworthy servants...


The Mountain can be moved by Faith...


So any instruction given by the Lord does not need unbelief and a no can do... Believe and be willing..

i don't believe he was accusing you, dear friend.

i hope the children are well. :)
 

Hizikyah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 14:21, “He who possesses My commands and guards them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and manifest Myself to him.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 14:23, "[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our stay with him."[/FONT]
 
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Had you added "as little as a mustard seed" in the first clause, you would have your answer in the last question.

Mustard seeds are tiny, so that is all it takes. Believe it!

But this is not related to salvation by grace through faith. It is related to the good works which follow. And there is also a spiritual gift of faith -- which in my estimation would be extraordinary faith.
So...which one of you have plucked up a mountain or tree by the roots through faith?
 

Hizikyah

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So...which one of you have plucked up a mountain or tree by the roots through faith?
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Proverbs 14:6, “A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of understanding.”[/FONT]
 
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Proverbs 14:6, “A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of understanding.”
Who said I was scoffing lawyer? All I did was ask a question....same to you...has your law keeping allowed you to remove a mountain or tree by the roots?
 

notmyown

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John 14:21, “He who possesses My commands and guards them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I shall love him and manifest Myself to him.”


John 14:23, "יהושע answered him, “If anyone loves Me, he shall guard My Word. And My Father shall love him, and We shall come to him and make Our stay with him."
Promises from the Most High God, not qualifiers.
 

Hizikyah

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Who said I was scoffing lawyer? All I did was ask a question....same to you...has your law keeping allowed you to remove a mountain or tree by the roots?
Why are you so rude? Constantly.

We should be building up faith and obedience not attacking it.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 11:6, “But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to Yah has to believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who earnestly seek Him.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 5:9, “And having been perfected, He became the Causer of everlasting salvation to all those obeying Him.”[/FONT]
 
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Why are you so rude? Constantly.

We should be building up faith and obedience not attacking it.

Hebrews 11:6, “But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to Yah has to believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who earnestly seek Him.”


Hebrews 5:9, “And having been perfected, He became the Causer of everlasting salvation to all those obeying Him.”
Read post 45689...it was accusatory and rude....so...look in the mirror lawyer.....you constantly judge and dish it and then wonder why people fire back.....
 

loveme1

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Who said I was scoffing lawyer? All I did was ask a question....same to you...has your law keeping allowed you to remove a mountain or tree by the roots?
As yet I have not needed to move a mountain or a Tree.. but GOD by His Grace through Faith in His Son took the weight of the world from off my shoulders.. and I Truly Believe all things are possible with GOD..

So.. if ever GOD moves literal Mountains through me Believing Him... I will be sure to let Mr DC know for the Glory of GOD.


P.s...
How do you feel about caramel for your coffee?
 

Hizikyah

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So...which one of you have plucked up a mountain or tree by the roots through faith?
Proverbs 14:6, “A scoffer seeks wisdom in vain, but knowledge is easy for a man of understanding.”
Read post 45689...it was accusatory and rude....so...look in the mirror lawyer.....you constantly judge and dish it and then wonder why people fire back.....
If that was not scoffing at peoples faith then Im not sure what is. Nothing that person said warranted that reply, yousay faith faith faith, then this... Faith does move mountians, faith can be the key the opens the door for Yah to come into peoples lives, if that is not bigger than any power on earth I dont know what is.

May we all seek the truth and light of Yah that we may be His and be a pleasing vessel to Him, in tuth and love, not being harsh but also not comprimising with falsehood, rather building up upon the Rock that is Messiah Yahshua/Jesus.

Acts 20:28, "Therefore, be on guard for yourselves and the whole flock over which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to feed the called out ones of YHWH, which Yahshua has purchased with His own blood."
 
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As yet I have not needed to move a mountain or a Tree.. but GOD by His Grace through Faith in His Son took the weight of the world from off my shoulders.. and I Truly Believe all things are possible with GOD..

So.. if ever GOD moves literal Mountains through me Believing Him... I will be sure to let Mr DC know for the Glory of GOD.


P.s...
How do you feel about caramel for your coffee?
Love a café caramel good stuff..........we have gas station here that sells a large caramel coffee (like 24oz) for like $1.39 which is $1.04 pound
 
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If that was not scoffing at peoples faith then Im not sure what is. Nothing that person said warranted that reply, yousay faith faith faith, then this... Faith does move mountians, faith can be the key the opens the door for Yah to come into peoples lives, if that is not bigger than any power on earth I dont know what is.

May we all seek the truth and light of Yah that we may be His and be a pleasing vessel to Him, in tuth and love, not being harsh but also not comprimising with falsehood, rather building up upon the Rock that is Messiah Yahshua/Jesus.

Acts 20:28, "Therefore, be on guard for yourselves and the whole flock over which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to feed the called out ones of YHWH, which Yahshua has purchased with His own blood."
Your not the overseers of anyone on this site......one day you might figure out context...until then....verses yanked out of context to hang a point on = false teaching......par for the course with you!