Not By Works
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"Silly things like that Jesus got mad" uh huh how long have you "read the bible" again?
How many times did Jesus "Scold"(aka get mad with) his disciples,let's see,the time on the boat that the disciples thought a storm would kill them,when Peter asked him to stay instead of being crucified,when he overturned tables in the temple,when Mary his own mother(a follower too) asked him to help with her wedding party,when the disciples failed at exorcising demons from people,I think you get what I mean by now.
How many times did Jesus "Scold"(aka get mad with) his disciples,let's see,the time on the boat that the disciples thought a storm would kill them,when Peter asked him to stay instead of being crucified,when he overturned tables in the temple,when Mary his own mother(a follower too) asked him to help with her wedding party,when the disciples failed at exorcising demons from people,I think you get what I mean by now.
U
Okay let me ask you this since again I disagree and I am tired of talking about BS (LOL) ....did Jesus lust too even though he never acted on it?
True, He was sinless. 
BUT He got angry, called people names, etc etc.. And in the end, He WAS sin personified. Every thought, every emotion, everything evil was upon Him. We already know that anger is a sin, but since Jesus got angry, He did in fact have that sin. I'm sure He repented right afterward though.
Y'all only want to see the sinless, perfect side of Jesus. You don't like having to acknowledge that He had the same desires, thoughts and emotions like the rest of us humans. Difference is, HE DID NOT act upon those desires. WE DO...
BUT He got angry, called people names, etc etc.. And in the end, He WAS sin personified. Every thought, every emotion, everything evil was upon Him. We already know that anger is a sin, but since Jesus got angry, He did in fact have that sin. I'm sure He repented right afterward though. Y'all only want to see the sinless, perfect side of Jesus. You don't like having to acknowledge that He had the same desires, thoughts and emotions like the rest of us humans. Difference is, HE DID NOT act upon those desires. WE DO...
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temptations of the flesh (Jesus held these captive) when not held captive
become sinful thoughts which makes a carnal mind
which leads to sinful works
He didnt have a carnal mind
also
being angry is not a sin
if you see a rapist cause harm to a child you should be angry
being jealous if your wife cheats on you isnt a sin
wanting justice because you see injustice is good
but when anyone other than God manifests this anger as wrath then its sin
i will stand firm in my belief Jesus did not sin....
which is why He was a worthy sacrifice
He was truely unspotted
become sinful thoughts which makes a carnal mind
which leads to sinful works
He didnt have a carnal mind
also
being angry is not a sin
if you see a rapist cause harm to a child you should be angry
being jealous if your wife cheats on you isnt a sin
wanting justice because you see injustice is good
but when anyone other than God manifests this anger as wrath then its sin
i will stand firm in my belief Jesus did not sin....
which is why He was a worthy sacrifice
He was truely unspotted
Not by works
We are saved because Jesus chose us and we follow.
If the disciples had not been chosen, no gospel.
If the disciples had not followed, no gospel.
If we are sinners who do nothing, nothing has changed, so we are under judgement.
Most denominations debate which things one needs to believe and which things we need to do,
but they all agree we need to believe certain things and do certain things.
Has all this 2415 pages been because people claim we do nothing?
If so, every believer will always disagree, because Jesus said put into action His words, and actions
require doing, and not putting His words into action is death and destruction. Pretty simple really.
Paul said this
"Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life."
Gal 6:8
Sowing to me is a pretty active thing. I have never seen a passive sower before,
only a lazy idle good for nothing who is doomed to destruction.
We are saved because Jesus chose us and we follow.
If the disciples had not been chosen, no gospel.
If the disciples had not followed, no gospel.
If we are sinners who do nothing, nothing has changed, so we are under judgement.
Most denominations debate which things one needs to believe and which things we need to do,
but they all agree we need to believe certain things and do certain things.
Has all this 2415 pages been because people claim we do nothing?
If so, every believer will always disagree, because Jesus said put into action His words, and actions
require doing, and not putting His words into action is death and destruction. Pretty simple really.
Paul said this
"Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life."
Gal 6:8
Sowing to me is a pretty active thing. I have never seen a passive sower before,
only a lazy idle good for nothing who is doomed to destruction.
Oh and Jesus thought about committing suicide, also. The bible says He was "tempted". He just didn't act on it. And He had no problem calling people vipers, wolves, pharisees, etc. And no problem telling Peter and Judas that they were liars, deniers and betrayers..
That all sounds like human emotion to me.. Hmmmmm
Human emotion that HE DID act upon, by the way.
That all sounds like human emotion to me.. Hmmmmm
Human emotion that HE DID act upon, by the way.
U
If He lusted He sinned, scripture is clear. Jesus did not sin.
He even said it himself.
Matthew 5:28
27You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
He even said it himself.
Matthew 5:28
27You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.