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Yeah but treating said subject as "cut and dry" is a bit on the "unbeneficial side",I mean I could go on about a ton of subjects to someone because I could think that they "need to change their mind" but it would be more likely that the individual would be more prone to resent me for such over bearing remarks.
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I just know that when I feel envious I am not feeling love towards that person so it is hard to believe that Jesus would have that emotion.
Always good to reflect and pray...I think the entire human - divine character of Jesus is difficult for our finite minds to really wrap itself around.
Always good to reflect and pray...I think the entire human - divine character of Jesus is difficult for our finite minds to really wrap itself around.
I’ll consider and pray about my thoughts on the emotion of envy being a sin.
But I do believe it is comparable to anger. Jesus said if we are angry in our heart we commit murder. Paul has a few different works of the flesh from anger. Fits of rage and wrath come to mind. But I’ll chew on it more.
But I do believe it is comparable to anger. Jesus said if we are angry in our heart we commit murder. Paul has a few different works of the flesh from anger. Fits of rage and wrath come to mind. But I’ll chew on it more.
Sister,
Jesus Christ did not envy. But He understands why we envy. He was fully Human.
That is why He can and WILL be our advocate when we fail. He completely understands and died in our place for the failings of mankind.
A Savior for mankind has to feel and understand as mankind. That is why He is our advocate and High Priest.
Again, Jesus Christ did NOT sin and never will, but He went through all the pressure and temptations that we go through. And we could add that that pressure and temptation was 100000000000000 times more than any of us will go through.
Jesus Christ did not envy. But He understands why we envy. He was fully Human.
That is why He can and WILL be our advocate when we fail. He completely understands and died in our place for the failings of mankind.
A Savior for mankind has to feel and understand as mankind. That is why He is our advocate and High Priest.
Again, Jesus Christ did NOT sin and never will, but He went through all the pressure and temptations that we go through. And we could add that that pressure and temptation was 100000000000000 times more than any of us will go through.
Please don't get offended and even say that the ff: verses are out of context because;
Romans 15:1-4 We who are strong ought to bear with the failings of the weak and not to please ourselves. Each of us should please his neighbor for his good, to build him up. For even Christ did not please himself but, as it is written: “THE INSULTS OF THOSE WHO INSULT YOU HAVE FALLEN ON ME.” FOR EVERYTHING THAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE PAST WAS WRITTEN TO TEACH US, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU EVEN APPROVE OF PEOPLE CURSING, INSULTING AND SPEAKING INAPPROPRIATE WORDS ALTHOUGH THEY CLAIM TO BE SAVED BELIEVERS AND THAT THOSE CALLING THEM FOUL ARE HYPOCRITES.
SO I'LL BE BOLD TO SAY THAT THE FF: ARE PERFECTLY REFERRING TO YOU AND YOUR FOLLOWERS.
Jude 1:12-16 These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever. Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
Romans 1:28-32 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin.
BUT DON'T THINK THAT I AM JUDGING YOU BECAUSE IT IS WRITTEN,
John 12:47-50 “As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”
Matthew 12:37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”
THEREFORE:
Acts 3:19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,
New International Version 1984 Acts 20:21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.
New International Version 1984 Acts 26:20 First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance BY THEIR DEEDS.
Romans 15:1-4 We who are strong ought to bear with the failings of the weak and not to please ourselves. Each of us should please his neighbor for his good, to build him up. For even Christ did not please himself but, as it is written: “THE INSULTS OF THOSE WHO INSULT YOU HAVE FALLEN ON ME.” FOR EVERYTHING THAT WAS WRITTEN IN THE PAST WAS WRITTEN TO TEACH US, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU EVEN APPROVE OF PEOPLE CURSING, INSULTING AND SPEAKING INAPPROPRIATE WORDS ALTHOUGH THEY CLAIM TO BE SAVED BELIEVERS AND THAT THOSE CALLING THEM FOUL ARE HYPOCRITES.
SO I'LL BE BOLD TO SAY THAT THE FF: ARE PERFECTLY REFERRING TO YOU AND YOUR FOLLOWERS.
Jude 1:12-16 These men are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever. Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
Romans 1:28-32 Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
John 15:22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin.
BUT DON'T THINK THAT I AM JUDGING YOU BECAUSE IT IS WRITTEN,
John 12:47-50 “As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it. There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; that very word which I spoke will condemn him at the last day. For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say.”
Matthew 12:37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”
THEREFORE:
Acts 3:19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,
New International Version 1984 Acts 20:21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.
New International Version 1984 Acts 26:20 First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance BY THEIR DEEDS.
Jesus have envy............Nooooooooooooooooo!!
en·vy
[ˈenvē]
NOUN
a feeling of discontented or resentful longing aroused by someone else's possessions, qualities, or luck:
"she felt a twinge of envy for the people on board"
synonyms: jealousy · covetousness · resentment · bitterness · discontent · the green-eyed monster
VERB
desire to have a quality, possession, or other desirable attribute belonging to (someone else):
"he envied people who did not have to work on weekends" · "I envy Jane her happiness"
synonyms: be envious of · be jealous of · begrudge · be resentful of
en·vy
[ˈenvē]
NOUN
a feeling of discontented or resentful longing aroused by someone else's possessions, qualities, or luck:
"she felt a twinge of envy for the people on board"
synonyms: jealousy · covetousness · resentment · bitterness · discontent · the green-eyed monster
VERB
desire to have a quality, possession, or other desirable attribute belonging to (someone else):
"he envied people who did not have to work on weekends" · "I envy Jane her happiness"
synonyms: be envious of · be jealous of · begrudge · be resentful of
U
Well only she can clarify, but if a statement is made that contradicts the very character of Christ Jesus it should be questioned.
I have reread the thread it was not personal, it was on a particular topic of discussion upon which we had differing views.
If Blue feels that the discussion was personal to her I would be more than willing to apologize that was not my intent at all.
He did in fact have that sin. I'm sure He repented right afterward though.
If Blue feels that the discussion was personal to her I would be more than willing to apologize that was not my intent at all.
