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VCO

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I am not upset. He repeats the same lies over and over again, like an automaton, then when they are pointed out to him, he feigns ignorance. That is being shown. According to his very own words, his sins will keep him out of the kingdom of God. We should pray for him.

I am watching a movie right now, while my dinner bakes in the oven.
I hope you have a good night :)

He is brainwashed by the Adventists book called "National Sunday Law." I still think that some of them think it is equal to the GOSPELS.
 

mailmandan

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He is brainwashed by the Adventists book called "National Sunday Law." I still think that some of them think it is equal to the GOSPELS.
Very brainwashed! I read through the website (The BeastsMark is coming!) that he has a link to at the bottom of all of his posts and it’s disturbing to say the least! :eek:

This website below exposes that ludicrous SDA doctrine:

Bible Truth Versus Adventist Truth - Mark of the Beast
 
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Oh me, oh my, how you elevate yourself.
Do you know what Gods word is, and are you a follower of Jesus?

For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life.
1 Thessalonians 4:7

We are called to bow the knee to our King and live a life worthy of Him

As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received.
Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.
Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.
Ephesians 4:1-3

So I encourage all here to seek God, to open their hearts and ask Him for more of the
Holy Spirit to help purify, heal and empower them to live the life we are born to live.

I am no one, I am just a servant honoring my Lord and His word.
There was a time when I would not recognise rebellion and a spirit not of the Lord.

He makes wars cease to the ends of the earth; he breaks the bow and shatters the spear, he burns the shields with fire.
"Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."
Psalm 46:9-10

Praise His name that He chose us to bring forth His word to the people around
whom we live. He has entrusted us to be true to His word until death, Amen.
 

gb9

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When you say "the sharing here is not of freedom but defeat and disappointment....", what are you saying, I'm not sure I follow you?
that's o.k. l.l.h is not sure what he saying either.
 

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Oh me, oh my, how you elevate yourself.
Hi Magenta, thank God for your gift of discernment, this is nothing more than sugar coated words from Peter Jens. It is based on his imaginations sprinkled with wisdom from the the bible. Some can see right through his sugary lies and then there are those who are taken in. I grew up with all of this sugary coated God speak my whole life and it has fooled many, take a good close look at his words before you are hooked by his lies... "Did God really say", "that ye may approve things that are excellent." Philippians 1:10, God bless.

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Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
 
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Magenta

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Hi Magenta, thank God for your gift of discernment, this is nothing more than sugar coated words from Peter Jens. It is based on his imaginations sprinkled with wisdom from the the bible. Some can see right through his sugary lies and then there are those who are taken in. I grew up with all of this sugary coated God speak my whole life and it has fooled many, take a good close look at his words before you are hooked by his lies... "Did God really say", "that ye may approve things that are excellent." Philippians 1:10, God bless.

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Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
Thank you, TT, I was just thinking I had not seen you for a while :) I am glad to see you are still with us, and hope you and your lovely wife are well...

I heard on the radio on the way to work this morning that close to 10% of Canadians live out of the country. I imagine many of them are in places like Thailand. I have known people that were planning to move there when they retired, and also know people who spend a good deal of time in Mexico. Meanwhile I have been to neither place LOL. I guess I am much more of a home body :D

One time a friend of mine went to Thailand, and had thousands of pictures she wanted to show me when she returned from her trip, and I know the sharing of photos is much more than looking at pictures, it is all the stories that go with them, but what she was not taking into consideration for me was the fact that as a photofinisher, I had seen most of her pictures many times over already :eek: Just without her in them ;) So that did not go over very well. That was probably around the time or after I became Christian, also. She was someone who felt total betrayal by my becoming Christian. It is funny how that happens...
 

Magenta

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I don't know what that means.
It is helpful if you use the Reply With Quote option so we know to what and to whom you are responding ;)

You don't know what what means? That water baptism does not save you?
 
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Its amazing, those who judge others people of being sinners are the the ones who you will over and over excuse their sins away as either not sins, or not that bad of sins.

They fail to realise even one sin (no matter how small) is so horrific to God that that sin causes death to the one who is guilty of it (apart from the cross)
Sinless perfectionists always push a false law abiding dogma......
 
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Your not molded by Gods spirit through obedience, you become obedient by being molded by Gods spirit.

One day you will get out of the way and let God show you this
just a point to ponder;

it is easier to mold a soft lump of clay (obedient) than a hardened one (disobedient) although WITH God nothing is impossible.

Hebrews 5:7-9 During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. ALTHOUGH HE WAS A SON, he LEARNED OBEDIENCE from what he SUFFERED and, once made PERFECT, he became the source of ETERNAL SALVATION for all who OBEY him.

Hebrews 2:10 In bringing many sons to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the author of their salvation PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERING.

Hebrews 7:28 For the law appoints as high priests men who are weak; but the oath, which came after the law, appointed the Son, who has been MADE PERFECT FOREVER.

-When a believer is being molded, he suffers and learns obedience unto perfection..

Matthew 19:21 Jesus answered, “IF YOU WANT TO BE PERFECT, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

2 Corinthians 7:1 Since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God.

2 Corinthians 13:9 We are glad whenever we are weak but you are strong; and our prayer is FOR YOUR PERFECTION.

2 Corinthians 13:11 Finally, brothers, good-by. AIM FOR PERFECTION, listen to my appeal, be of one mind, live in peace. And the God of love and peace will be with you.

Philippians 3:12 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been MADE PERFECT, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me.

Colossians 1:28 We proclaim him, admonishing and teaching everyone with all wisdom, so that we may present everyone PERFECT IN CHRIST.

Hebrews 11:39-40 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. God had planned something better for us so that ONLY TOGETHER WITH US WOULD THEY BE MADE PERFECT.
 
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stonesoffire

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New International Version 1984 1 John 3:15 Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.
1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love one another. The person who does not love remains spiritually dead.
 
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Romans 3:31
Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

Are you saying that following the commands that the Father gave, the one who sent HIS Son to die for you and me, that it is a waste of time?
why did Christ die for you? so you can REPENT from your sins and FOLLOW him, right?
Repent means turn away from, right?
what is sin according to scripture? 1 John 3:4
Romans 7:7

ONLY 1 PERSON WAS EVER JUSTIFIED BY THEIR WORKS THAT IS YAHUSHUA,
BUT WE CAN EVER BE JUSTIFIED BY OUR WORKS< BECAUSE NO ONE OF US HAVE KEPT THEM, IF WE HAVE KEPT ONE WE HAVE FAILED IN ANOTHER, BUT WE DO NOT GIVE UP, MESSIAH DID NOT TAKE OUR PLACE FOR NOTHING, WE STRIVE EACH DAY, WITH HIS HELP TO WALK MORE AND MORE LIKE HIM, THAT EVERYONE MAY SEE THAT IT IS NO LONGER WE WHO LIVE BUT HE LIVES IN US.
 

stonesoffire

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without cause would be like cain, and as believers given over to the Fruits of the Spirit we do not Love as cain loved.
Where envy and strife are the Lord will rebuke the enemy and send the foul birds to flight. Till the day comes they are no longer given any such chance to wander.
after being chained and reserved for destruction.
There will be more said in the victory of our Lord than any other utterence from the corrupted cursed creature that dared tempt mankind away from their Heavenly Father.
Hi pin

Not everyone knows that birds may represent demons in scriptures. Am mentioning it because I see you know....and just in case someone doesn't. Not in every scripture but some.

And i like too what you say as given over to the fruits. They are within, same as gifts. I use the word draw...all we need to do is draw on them by faith. No need to wait to grow anything. That was an exercise in futility for me for years.

The more I tried to be patient or move in love...always ended in failure. Trying is a no no. :)