If you read carefully they claim God and Jesus are 2 different men who attained being gods. This contradicts the Bible. That is as far as I need to go. In addition they are a Christian cult defined as such because they use more books on the same level as the Bible. Much of their theology that contradicts the Bible comes from those books.
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Hi Endoscopy, given your background; You are 72yrs old, Saved in 1954, you were raised a Christian, appointed as an Elder and Deacon in the Reformed Church in America. Your theology is Reformed, (Calvinist). And all of this is public knowledge directly from your, "About Me", profile.
My statement is; you should have an understanding of most of the questions you are asking; such as; Quote: (About Baptism); "Absolutely no verses in the Bible define how it is to be done."-- (a false statement). As an Elder/Deacon you should know that Jesus is our example of all things spiritual and biblical, however, you should be teaching me given your qualifications. An Elder, (overseer), should be an; "able teacher" 1Timothy3:2
The Baptism of Jesus: (Our example), Matthew3:16,17
16) "As soon as Jesus was baptized, "He went up out of the water.", At that moment heaven was opened,
and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him.
17) And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”
My statement is; you should have an understanding of most of the questions you are asking; such as; Quote: (About Baptism); "Absolutely no verses in the Bible define how it is to be done."-- (a false statement). As an Elder/Deacon you should know that Jesus is our example of all things spiritual and biblical, however, you should be teaching me given your qualifications. An Elder, (overseer), should be an; "able teacher" 1Timothy3:2
The Baptism of Jesus: (Our example), Matthew3:16,17
16) "As soon as Jesus was baptized, "He went up out of the water.", At that moment heaven was opened,
and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him.
17) And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”
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Yes, and people get fooled by "they are just good people", and my grandson is one of them. The use Christian terms, but they DO NOT MEAN WHAT WE MEAN BY THOSE TERMS. It is the Biggest psuedo-christian cult that I know of. You would think that they call Jesus and Lucifer Brothers, would scare everyone from joining them, bit is grows bigger every year.
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Say that this does happen...
What's to stop anyone from making a similar thread?
I myself have in the past made a similar thread and others have too with a different turn on things or in an opposite way,it won't change anything as some suggested you can simply make your own thread even "in your favor" possibly,if you so wish, many have done so and it makes for interesting discussion this thread has stayed due to "popularity" of sorts on "both sides" of the salvation spectrum and so long as people "find it popular" it will continue on simple really.
What's to stop anyone from making a similar thread?
I myself have in the past made a similar thread and others have too with a different turn on things or in an opposite way,it won't change anything as some suggested you can simply make your own thread even "in your favor" possibly,if you so wish, many have done so and it makes for interesting discussion this thread has stayed due to "popularity" of sorts on "both sides" of the salvation spectrum and so long as people "find it popular" it will continue on simple really.