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Studyman

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We have raccoons here, too :D

I also had raccoons as pets when I was a child :eek:




When I was nine years old, my dad rescued four baby raccoons.



We kept two of them; I looked after Charlie and Ferocious for four years.




Ferocious was the nice one :)
We had some as well. We had one, Ben, that love sugar cubes. But when you handed one to him he would take it so hard he would bite us. My Mom made a salt cube from salt and flower and gave it to him one time. He grabbed it and scarfed it down just like before, but it was awful for him. After that he would gently take the sugar cube from your hands, lick it to make sure, then scarf it down.

Great pictures.
 

mailmandan

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why don't you go peddle your lies someone else. or better yet, just stop with all the nonsense you try to push. you will have to answer to the Lord for this attempt to deceive , if you do not stop.
The verses that he quotes and twists and also takes out of context in order to accommodate his perverted gospel are the same verses that works-salvationists in general quote, twist and take out of context in order to teach salvation by works, including Roman Catholics, Mormons, along with misguided teachers of the law in general including SDA's etc.. Works-salvationists typically confuse rewards with salvation, justification with ongoing sanctification, descriptive passages of scripture with prescriptive passages of scripture, the fruit of repentance/faith with the essence of repentance/faith, and basically end up defining belief/faith as obedience/works. He is not fooling us for one second. ;)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Hey people.

I am now 6 weeks without smoking.

Is that a good work?
If I died tonight does that mean I'm going to heaven?

I have been told in the past that I'm going to hell and smell like it on the way?
i am three years, i knw the pain, good luck bro!
 
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Yep benhur, he has the same syrupy sweet false gospel, and he is full of nonsensical questions.
Not sure i see it, will have to keep an eye out. Have you reported it?
 

Magenta

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We had some as well. We had one, Ben, that love sugar cubes. But when you handed one to him he would take it so hard he would bite us. My Mom made a salt cube from salt and flower and gave it to him one time. He grabbed it and scarfed it down just like before, but it was awful for him. After that he would gently take the sugar cube from your hands, lick it to make sure, then scarf it down.

Great pictures.
That is a funny story, Studyman! Haha, your mom taught your raccoon Ben manners :eek: I was bitten by the other raccoon~ once when I went to feed them, she charged out and chomped down on me as I was putting the bowl of food on the ground. I stood up and she was dangling from my arm, so I knocked her off with my other hand, fisted :p The same one bit down on my ankle once while I was sitting on top of their pen grooming her sister (the one in the pics). Somebody was walking by, and their presence obviously upset her, because she ran in and out of the pen in a type of frantic panic before she bit my leg, which was dangling near the entrance to the pen. That told me something about the person that was walking by at the time :( I often walked them, and she was the one that would sit on my shoulders in the classic raccoon posture, with her front paws perched on the top of my head, so she wasn't always bad :D But I knew I had to be more careful with her :)
 

TruthTalk

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Not sure i see it, will have to keep an eye out. Have you reported it?
Not yet, its his manner of speech and world view that comes through and if you contest what he says he has a real bad mean streak. I am a bit surprised you were unaware of him. He has cut back on the syrup a little bit.
 
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I liked your post.

But from my understanding it has to do with church discipline.

But having said that I do feel that it goes beyond that.

So for me if I'm sat in my room on my own and praying.
It's me as he Jesus, two people.
And he hears my prayers.

What do you think?
I think churches met in houses and 2 or 3 make an assembly....Where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst. <--Jesus said this and how does this apply to discipline...?
 

Shamah

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 40:8-10, “I have delighted to do Your pleasure, O my Elohim, And Your Torah is within my heart. I have proclaimed the good news of righteousness, In the great assembly; See, I do not restrain my lips, O [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהוה[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif], You know. I did not conceal Your righteousness within my heart; I have declared Your trustworthiness and Your deliverance; I did not hide Your loving-commitment and Your truth From the great assembly.”

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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”[/FONT]

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Shamah

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Psalms 40:8-10, “I have delighted to do Your pleasure, O my Elohim, And Your Torah is within my heart. I have proclaimed the good news of righteousness, In the great assembly; See, I do not restrain my lips, O יהוה, You know. I did not conceal Your righteousness within my heart; I have declared Your trustworthiness and Your deliverance; I did not hide Your loving-commitment and Your truth From the great assembly.”


Jeremiah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."


Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them.”


 
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I am glad I do not have to pretend to be Hebrew....and under the new covenant there is neither JEW nor GENTILE, BUT RATHER A NEW CREATION in Christ Jesus...

Does using the following make one more holy or righteous....

YHWH
ISRAYL
ELOHIM

Jesus is his name and he saves his people from their sins and he states when you pray say...Our FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.....
 

tanakh

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I am glad I do not have to pretend to be Hebrew....and under the new covenant there is neither JEW nor GENTILE, BUT RATHER A NEW CREATION in Christ Jesus...

Does using the following make one more holy or righteous....

YHWH
ISRAYL
ELOHIM

Jesus is his name and he saves his people from their sins and he states when you pray say...Our FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.....
Most of the Jewish roots movement is comprised of Pseudo Jews. You can easily tell the difference from reading books written by real Jewish Christians like Perry Stone and Edward Vasicek
 
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I have asked this question before, so I will ask you: What reward do we get in heaven for doing good works?
Not salvation.....that is given freely, eternally by grace through faith with no strings attached.....or works, law keeping or jumping through religious hoops.......
 
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Priceless gems upon our crowns and memories and smiling faces of those you help and loved in this life.
Amen.....another truth overlooked by the workers for....Salvation is a FREE GIFT OF GRACE BASED ENTIRELY UPON FAITH WITHOUT WORKS ATTACHED....however...we are REWARDED FOR FAITHFUL SERVICE OR WORKS...

the word REWARD is MISTHOS which means wages or pay rendered for service...

An easy enough truth to understand...!
 

BillG

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I think churches met in houses and 2 or 3 make an assembly....Where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst. <--Jesus said this and how does this apply to discipline...?
It comes at the the end of dealing with a sinning brother.

Matthew 18:15-20
Dealing with a Sinning Brother
15 “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.
18 “Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
19 “Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”

18:19, 20 This passage specifically refers to church discipline. It is a promise for guidance for the two or three who confront, and a promise for the church to claim wisdom and restoration for the erring brother (NKJS study notes)
 

Seohce

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Galatians 6:7-10 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A MAN REAPS WHAT HE SOWS. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.

THIS CLEARLY SHOWS TWO KIND OF SOWERS(WORKERS).

NO ONE REAPS WITHOUT SOWING ANYTHING.

ONLY THE "DEAD" DO NOT WORK.

James 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

WHY DO YOU MOCK GOD??????
 
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It comes at the the end of dealing with a sinning brother.

Matthew 18:15-20
Dealing with a Sinning Brother
15 “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.
18 “Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
19 “Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”

18:19, 20 This passage specifically refers to church discipline. It is a promise for guidance for the two or three who confront, and a promise for the church to claim wisdom and restoration for the erring brother (NKJS study notes)
It.goes beyond that bro....it establishes the fact and truth that two or three gathered in the name of Jesus have the authority of a New Testament Assembly before Christ....combined with the evidence found that churches met in homes (Philemon, Acts, etc.) and combined with it being tied to verse 15 tells me that 2 or 3 gathered in the name of Christ is just as much a church as 100 meeting in a building on the corner.

And I do understand the context...I am just saying that deeper truth can be gleaned about what makes up a church from the context....
 
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Galatians 6:7-10 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A MAN REAPS WHAT HE SOWS. The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.

THIS CLEARLY SHOWS TWO KIND OF SOWERS(WORKERS).

NO ONE REAPS WITHOUT SOWING ANYTHING.

ONLY THE "DEAD" DO NOT WORK.

James 2:26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.

WHY DO YOU MOCK GOD??????
Have you not noticed that no one hardly responds to your drivel.....serious.....Why are you blind to not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy has he saved us....ALL PAST TENSE...


Must be your Catholic roots