Not By Works

[SovereignGrace]

I think if you go to my post that has scriptures linked you'll see the clarification you need. Thanks.

But it is too ambiguous. Did the Christ become the Son of God via birthing from Mary?

 

[BillG]

We could always combine two worlds.

I quite like my own little world.

Just me, and well me.
I talk to myself and answer myself back.

In fact in my own little world I can tell myself not to be stupid and not get upset.

In fact in my own little world I can go to my nothing box

 

[AngelFrog]

But it is too ambiguous. Did the Christ become the Son of God via birthing from Mary?

God knew it took a woman, Mary, to arrive and appear to the world as the son of a man. The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God (Luke 1:35)

But the son of God has always been in scripture.
Furthermore, what you also may not know is that believers, women and men, are daughters and son's of God.
That's scripture too.

 

[SovereignGrace]

@AngelFrog,

The reason I ask is because some ppl have taught that God sought a good man on earth and saw Jesus, the Son of Mary as being that. It was after His baptism He became the Son of God/man. I think Finis Jennings Dake, creator of the Dake annotated study Bible was one who taught this.

 

[SovereignGrace]

God knew it took a woman, Mary, to arrive and appear to the world as the son of a man. The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God (Luke 1:35)

But the son of God has always been in scripture.
Furthermore, what you also may not know is that believers, women and men, are daughters and son's of God.
That's scripture too.

I agree that we are sons and daughters of God, but that’s via adoption. The Christ is eternally the Son of God. So, has the Son of God always been, or did He become the Son of God at birthing from Mary?

 

[BillG]

Really? Poo with a caricature is grotesque.
A fallen world that puts a face on s**t. Only, and I do mean only, in America! But, made in China. Pillows, stuffed shapes of that grotesque poo with a face on it, air freshners for the car even.
It's grotesque to emote diarrhea.
Which is what that is.

So you find it offensive?

 

[trofimus]

@AngelFrog,

The reason I ask is because some ppl have taught that God sought a good man on earth and saw Jesus, the Son of Mary as being that. It was after His baptism He became the Son of God/man. I think Finis Jennings Dake, creator of the Dake annotated study Bible was one who taught this.

Also, some people here on CC believe that He was not the Son before His incarnation, that He was just Word (whatever they mean by that).

 

[VCO]

Could some one tell me where this quote is found in the Bible?


I thought the blood of Christ is what saved us and Jesus told us to have FAITH in Him?

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It appears to me, that someone has shoved two portions of scripture together.

Romans 5:8-10 (HCSB)
8 But God proves His own love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us!
9 Much more then, since we have now been declared righteous by His blood, we will be saved through Him from wrath.
10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, ⌊then how⌋ much more, having been reconciled, will we be saved by His life!

John 14:12 (NIV)
12 I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

OR

Acts 26:15-18 (NASB)
15 "And I said, 'Who are You, Lord?' And the Lord said, 'I am Jesus whom you are persecuting.
16 'But get up and stand on your feet; for this purpose I have appeared to you, to appoint you a minister and a witness not only to the things which you have seen, but also to the things in which I will appear to you;
17 rescuing you from the Jewish people and from the Gentiles, to whom I am sending you,
18 to open their eyes so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the dominion of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who have been sanctified by faith in Me.'

OH, I think that I have discovered that the WINGDINGS and WEBDINGS, now work on this new format:

? ? ? ? ✡ ? ✝ ? ?

 

[AngelFrog]

@AngelFrog,

The reason I ask is because some ppl have taught that God sought a good man on earth and saw Jesus, the Son of Mary as being that. It was after His baptism He became the Son of God/man. I think Finis Jennings Dake, creator of the Dake annotated study Bible was one who taught this.

Denominational teachings vary from scripture and what it says. That view you refer to would then make Jesus fully human first and not divine and immortal. He would have been born in sin also being born as just another human male to a human mother first and as such in need of a savior. Furthermore, as to that teaching that claims "God sought a good man on earth and saw Jesus...." Not only does that teaching revoke, or refute, what God told Mary prior to her being covered by holy spirit so as to beget Immanuel, Matthew 1. But it also forgets the scripture in Mark 10:18, but also Paul's observation in Romans 3:10-12 .

The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God (Luke 1:35)

 

[SovereignGrace]

Denominational teachings vary from scripture and what it says. That view you refer to would then make Jesus fully human first and not divine and immortal. He would have been born in sin also being born as just another human male to a human mother first and as such in need of a savior. Furthermore, as to that teaching that claims "God sought a good man on earth and saw Jesus...." Not only does that teaching revoke, or refute, what God told Mary prior to her being covered by holy spirit so as to beget Immanuel, Matthew 1. But it also forgets the scripture in Mark 10:18, but also Paul's observation in Romans 3:10-12 .

The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God (Luke 1:35)

I agree with your first paragraph.

Now, give me YOUR answer and not another verse. Did the Christ become the Son of God at birthing from Mary? A yes or no will suffice. Thanks bunches.

 

[Magenta]

I hope you stood up for me as I did for you

Ooh look we have emoji.

This could be fun

There's a purple emoji Why couldn't it have a halo instead of horns?

 

[TruthTalk]

I think I have it set correctly

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Looks good to me

 

[BillG]

There's a purple emoji Why couldn't it have a halo instead of horns?

I can't see that one on my iPad

 

[Magenta]

I can't see that one on my iPad

Can you see it in my post?

 

[BillG]

Can you see it in my post?

Yep I can

 

[dcontroversal]

DC is that a picture of you?

Yes bro...and you have a nice family

 

[AngelFrog]

I agree with your first paragraph.

Now, give me YOUR answer and not another verse. Did the Christ become the Son of God at birthing from Mary? A yes or no will suffice. Thanks bunches.

I can't help but note your sarcasm.
I have given you my answer and I've supported my answer with scriptures. Thanks.

 

[TruthTalk]

I quite like my own little world.

Just me, and well me.
I talk to myself and answer myself back.

In fact in my own little world I can tell myself not to be stupid and not get upset.

In fact in my own little world I can go to my nothing box

I would add this to my, "too funny box"...

 

[TruthTalk]

Hey! Looks like Endoscopy got his answer to prayer. You can now edit your post for as long as you wish, there is no longer a 5min time limit for editing, yippy do da!

 

[VCO]

MEMORIAL DAY at my house. Okay, I figured it out.