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mailmandan

mailmandan

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Seohce said:
YOU HAVE ASKED ME THAT QUESTION BEFORE AND WHEN I GAVE AN ANSWER, YOU JUST DID THE SAME THINGS YOU'VE BEEN DOING, YOU MOCK AND SCOFF AS IT WAS WRITTEN:

3 Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. 4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

5 Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

8 In the very same way, on the strength of their dreams these ungodly people pollute their own bodies, reject authority and heap abuse on celestial beings. 9 But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10 Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them.

11 Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s rebellion.

12 These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds mwithout rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. 13 They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.

14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” 16 These people are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.

17 But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18 They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19 These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.

YOU HAVE ASKED THE SAME QUESTION TO SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE AND YOU WOULD NOT ACCEPT A VALID ANSWER.

TRY AGAIN NEXT TIME.

1 corinthians 5
6 your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old bread leavened with malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of SINCERITY AND TRUTH.
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Instead of a 10 page, hate filled rant, why don’t you simply answer my question again. I don’t recall your last answer.
 
Jewel5712

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mailmandan said:
Instead of a 10 page, hate filled rant, why don’t you simply answer my question again. I don’t recall your last answer.
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Yeah..I'm with you Dan. If things are too long..most of the stuff is in necessary.. like reading a legal document..a LOT of extra wording ..pages that can be summarized in 2 paragraphs..lol
 
dcontroversal

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Shamah said:
you mean the pharisees who rejected the Law of YHWH and made their own man made laws?

Mark 7:1-9, “And the Pharisees and some of the scribes assembled to Him, having come from Yerushalayim. And seeing some of His taught ones eat bread with defiled, that is, with unwashed hands, they found fault. For the Pharisees, and all the Yehuḏim, do not eat unless they wash their hands thoroughly, holding fast the tradition of the elders, and coming from the market-place, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions which they have received and hold fast – the washing of cups and utensils and copper vessels and couches. Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your taught ones not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? And He answering, said to them, “Well did Yeshayahu prophesy concerning you hypocrites, as it has been written, ‘This people respect Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. And in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commands of men.’ Forsaking the command of YHWH, you hold fast the tradition of men. And He said to them, “Well do you set aside the command of YHWH, in order to guard your tradition."

Yeah, I submit to YHWH and His Laws...
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Do you keep the law 24/7/365....nope....so...you do not submit to the law...it condemns you as guilty, you have never kept it, nor will you ever! Very deceived of you think you keep it.....
 
dcontroversal

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Jewel5712 said:
Lol everyone sins this side of heaven..Jesus death provided a way that we could ask forgiveness and be restored back to God ..doesn't affect the status of our salvation though.

By saying you're sinless is saying you're God...God is the ONLY sinless being..
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If I may interject a thought....the spirit that is born from above by incorruptable seed does not sin (1st John) However, we in this dead body of sin that is not subject unto the word of God does sin.....and when we are weak and not transformed in mind we are apt to sin more than not.....maybe what was meant...??
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Jewel5712 said:
Eternally..where are you from? It's hard for me to know who lives where..thier country..changes in time zones etc..
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I am in the great state of Ohio, in the United States of America. OH-
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Jewel5712 said:
Yeah..I'm with you Dan. If things are too long..most of the stuff is in necessary.. like reading a legal document..a LOT of extra wording ..pages that can be summarized in 2 paragraphs..lol
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Thats why I have him on ignore. He is not here to discuss, His long winded posts and refusal to answer anyone was too much..
 
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