Not By Works

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
U

UnderGrace

Guest
Lol..thats not the importamce or concept of my post..lol.. God is changimg my priorities..
Well you asked am I wrong, so I was wondering about your thoughts on tithing.
I see there is no question then.:cool:
 

Jewel5712

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2018
4,091
2,271
113
Well you asked am I wrong, so I was wondering about your thoughts on tithing.
I see there is no question then.:cool:
Lol..i am asking "am i wrong" in my concept of thinking..lol not about tithing in particular..tithing is just a one fact of many in my statement
 
U

UnderGrace

Guest
Lol..i am asking "am i wrong" in my concept of thinking..lol not about tithing in particular..tithing is just a one fact of many in my statement
It seems tithing is part of your whole view.

Any way no matter, giving is about the heart, a cheerful giver, not about "giving til hurts" like some preachers like to preach.
 

Jewel5712

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2018
4,091
2,271
113
It seems tithing is part of your whole view.

Any way no matter, giving is about the heart, a cheerful giver, not about "giving til hurts" like some preachers like to preach.
I have told you twice it wasnt but yet you persist to tell ME what MY post is about?? Lpl. Whats wrong with THAT picture..please move on with YOUR (not my) agenda..thanks
 

Jewel5712

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2018
4,091
2,271
113
It seems tithing is part of your whole view.

Any way no matter, giving is about the heart, a cheerful giver, not about "giving til hurts" like some preachers like to preach.
I DID put that i prayed tgat God would SHOW ME..i am ACTING on the opportunities Hes shown and sometimes sacrifice is necissary..part os spiritual emotional and physical growth sometimes..
 

TruthTalk

Senior Member
Jul 17, 2017
2,904
2,262
113
It seems tithing is part of your whole view.

Any way no matter, giving is about the heart, a cheerful giver, not about "giving til hurts" like some preachers like to preach.
Hi Undergrace, Jesus said in the Sermon on the Mount let our giving be in secret and our Father in Heaven will reward us, this is how I view my giving and it is not only by cash that we can give of course. I love to give but I do not appreciate someone telling me how much I should give.

Giving to the Needy: Matthew6:1-4
1) “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2) “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3) But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4) so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
 

TruthTalk

Senior Member
Jul 17, 2017
2,904
2,262
113
Remember our parents taught us, "it is better to give than receive", is that in the bible...I think not but I will check my concordance....:)

Psalm50:10
for every animal of the forest is mine, and the cattle on a thousand hills.
 

Jewel5712

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2018
4,091
2,271
113
Jesus said..."It is more blessed to give than to receive"....
But...we have to learn to be gracious recievers as well..otherwise ,stealing" someone elses blessing my mom says...i struggle..9x outta 10 theres strings attached from the giver :/
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,395
113
Have the Caonologists, lawyers and workers for done enough to stay saved today? Nope....not yesterday, today nor tomorrow...works do not save and or keep saved.....now faith on the other hand saves eternally.....!!!
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,395
113
It does not get any plainer..........Our righteous works have ZERO to do with Salvation!

English Standard Version
he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

Berean Study Bible
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.

Berean Literal Bible
He saved us, not by works in righteousness that we did, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,

New American Standard Bible
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

King James Bible
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
A bump for the workers for, Cainologists and Lawyers.....pay heed!
 

Shamah

Senior Member
Jan 6, 2018
2,735
692
113
Hebrews 9:27-28, “And as it awaits men to die once, and after this the judgment, so also the Messiah, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to those waiting for Him, unto salvation.”

Matt 24:12-13, “And because of the increase in lawlessness, the love of many shall become cold. But he who shall have endured to the end shall be saved.”
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,395
113
You can post matthew 24 a million times out of context to push a lie all you want and it will not change the fact that it is not about salvation...your dogma is false pal!
 

Shamah

Senior Member
Jan 6, 2018
2,735
692
113
Matthew 10:22, “And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.”

James 1:12, "Blessed is the man who does endure trial, for when he has been proved, he shall receive the crown of life which the Master has promised to those who love Him."

Mat 25:23, “His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.”
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,395
113
Blah blah blah....works do not save nor determine one's salvation which is a current possession....maybe that is why you do not possess it yet...you don't believe, but rather post law abiding drivel.....!
 

VCO

Senior Member
Oct 14, 2013
11,967
4,586
113
I posted my web site in my signature . . . but it disappeared. I guess it is not allowed?

Yes new Program did a Lot of strange stuff to Old Posts.

If I was on any OLD Post qouting my favorite Bible Verse, here is what it looks like when THIS NEW PROGRAM GETS A HOLD OF IT:

Titus 2:13 (HCSB)
[SUP]13[SUP] while we wait for the blessed hope and appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Then on that thread I made for posting music we like from YouTube, the VIDEOS disappeared leaving only that YouTube address where I got the Video from such as this:

Native American singers.

[video=youtube;NoBBgYnsO-E]

But on then NEW PROGRAM it is Normal:

Here is one of my favorite from Emmy Kosgei, from Kenya:




So you may have to recreate your Signature.