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I need to elaborate more on this misinformation that you have, even more than I did before.
You have confused the Human Spirit with the Human Soul.
Once Born Again the Human Spirit, which is available HERE AND NOW, . . . the HUMAN SPIRIT WILL NEVER DIE AND WILL HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.
John 11:26 (HCSB)
26 Everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die—ever. Do you believe this?”
John 3:36 (HCSB)
36 The one who believes in the Son has eternal life, but the one who refuses to believe in the Son will not see life; instead, the wrath of God remains on him.
Notice he is not in eternal life, but rather IN ENTERNAL PUNISHMENT, and his spirit will feel all the burning punishment, which seems to be the implication of the True Biographical Story of Lazarus and the Rich Man.
You know the Body will Die, and you now the mind will Die, but MAYBE the Memories go WITH THE HUMAN SPIRIT, so what part of Man is IMMORTAL, which means the Human Spirit will go to be Eternally in Heaven, or Eternally in Torment.
Psalm 146:4 (NASB)
4 His spirit departs, he returns to the earth; In that very day his thoughts perish.
I do not normally quote from the Apocrypha, but this is a parallel verse to the above verse.
Sirach 38:23 (NJB)
23 Once the dead are laid to rest, let their memory rest, do not fret for them, once their spirit departs.
That is a reference to BELIEVERS, and so is this:
2 Corinthians 5:8 (NKJV)
8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.
So where do the unsaved {non-Born Again} GO?
Matthew 25:46 (KJV)
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matthew 10:28 (HCSB)
28 Don’t fear those who kill the body but are not able to kill the soul; rather, fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Now Psalm 146:4 (NASB) & Matthew 10:28 (HCSB) may indicate the HUMAN SPIRIT, carries with it the entire memories of the Soul. BUT NOTICE there is only TWO PARTS OF A HUMAN BEING MENTIONED there in Mat 10:28. The human spirit was born into spiritual death because of Adams Sin Nature, and spiritual death is NOT LIKE PHYSICAL DEATH. You Function, but it is VOID of the WILL OF GOD, and only cares about SELF. Therefore it too is eternal, but as it will be in EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT, and when the Body and the Soul are destroyed, IT WILL REMAIN IN EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT FOREVER.
Please, COME to genuine BELIEF in the REAL JESUS.
In post #76,636 - https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/not-by-works.146296/page-3832#post-3780224 I asked Suzy if she was a Mormon, but never received an answer. 
What made me question this was when she said - "We see we have to change, repent and be baptized so we are baptized and by the laying on of hands receive the H. S"
What made me question this was when she said - "We see we have to change, repent and be baptized so we are baptized and by the laying on of hands receive the H. S"
Yeah, that would make sense. I was convinced that it was a Psuedo Christian Cult, but I was in hopes that she was not deceived beyond, bringing her back to REPENTANCE.
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nope.
the guy who wrote this, William edwy vine was quoted as saying " human tampering has marred it's ( Scripture) working."
so, what did he do? he re-translated the N.T.
so, in see why you and needs to studyman like this guy- he thought he had authority over Scripture. he did not, you do not, studyman does not.
oh, and for you Sabbath people, mr. vine did not deem the O.T. important enough to re-translate.
how do you reconcile that?
the guy who wrote this, William edwy vine was quoted as saying " human tampering has marred it's ( Scripture) working."
so, what did he do? he re-translated the N.T.
so, in see why you and needs to studyman like this guy- he thought he had authority over Scripture. he did not, you do not, studyman does not.
oh, and for you Sabbath people, mr. vine did not deem the O.T. important enough to re-translate.
how do you reconcile that?
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I copied those definitions word for word out of the New Strongs Expanded , and the Vines Expository . I don't need to google them , I have the accuall books .
Those two Greek dictionarys are readily available for you to find . We both know you can't accept those definitions and marry your understanding with them , so stop hiding behind some proof your to lazy to find yourself .
Those two Greek dictionarys are readily available for you to find . We both know you can't accept those definitions and marry your understanding with them , so stop hiding behind some proof your to lazy to find yourself .
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in other words, You can not provide proof. If I was making statement and speaking of them as proof. I would readily provide proof. Even if I had to take a picture of the book and page so everyone could see.
Myself and many people quoted from every known and readily available strongs dictionary,,. We did not find those words..even if it did in tis version, strongs is a WEAK dictionary anyway (it usually uses about every definition people use.. whether the definition is true or not) so it is a basic guide at best,
Either way, You demanding that is what it says, Thus YOU have to prove it. You did not because you can not Thus I am finished giving you an audience.. I will no longer stroke your pride by responding to you.
Myself and many people quoted from every known and readily available strongs dictionary,,. We did not find those words..even if it did in tis version, strongs is a WEAK dictionary anyway (it usually uses about every definition people use.. whether the definition is true or not) so it is a basic guide at best,
Either way, You demanding that is what it says, Thus YOU have to prove it. You did not because you can not Thus I am finished giving you an audience.. I will no longer stroke your pride by responding to you.
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All my CC cohorts.....at St. Louis international airport headed back down to Sydney, AU....pray all goes well and back safely......another 17 hour flight from Dallas tonight hahaha woooohoooooo
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Pisteuo is a verb , something we " must " fulfill , something we must do . Not something Christ does for us , then gives to us , for us to just believe in .
What specifically must we do continually throughout the Salvation journey , "a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender ."
Why must you make it so confusing ?
What specifically must we do continually throughout the Salvation journey , "a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender ."
Why must you make it so confusing ?
In post #76,636 - https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/not-by-works.146296/page-3832#post-3780224 I asked Suzy if she was a Mormon, but never received an answer. What made me question this was when she said - "We see we have to change, repent and be baptized so we are baptized and by the laying on of hands receive the H. S"
What made me question this was when she said - "We see we have to change, repent and be baptized so we are baptized and by the laying on of hands receive the H. S"
Here was my Designated Break area, at the Scenic Look Out Area at the end of 9th Street, in Crescent City, CA. I also had my Lunch Break at my Apartment. Seven of my STREETS dead ended at the Ocean. From my LLV's left side, looking straight south is the
Battery Point Light House, at the end of 2nd St.
During the WINTER it RAINS SIDEWAYS A LOT. So that picture is in the the SUMMER.
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And your qualified?? Lolol. Dude you keep digging a hole you can not dig out. We have quoted strongs dictionary. Strongs did his dictionary and came out wiht his system in the 1850’s. If someone came and changed his defentions. They changed his words. This it is not from strongs. It is a fabrication.
But hey,,
Keep trying to faith your way to eternal life by trying to save yourself.
I will stand still ansd have faith in God who saved me.
But hey,,
Keep trying to faith your way to eternal life by trying to save yourself.
I will stand still ansd have faith in God who saved me.
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