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We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. 1 John 2:3-6
"that one verse doesn't erase the rest of the Bible, dude" ____
The Lord is good to all,
and His mercy is over all that He has made!
(Psalm 145:9)
Go and learn what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.’
For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.
(Matthew 9:13)
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.
(Matthew 23:23)
For judgment is without mercy to one who has shown no mercy.
Mercy triumphs over judgment.
(James 2:13)
Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
(Matthew 5:7)
Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful.
(Luke 6:36)
He saved us,
not because of works done by us in righteousness,
but according to His own mercy
(Titus 3:5)
With the merciful you show yourself merciful
(2 Samuel 22:26)
For He says to Moses,
“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
(Romans 9:15)
Therefore, having this ministry by the mercy of God, we do not lose heart.
(2 Corinthians 4:1)
I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.
(Romans 12:1)
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that's a mischaracterization.
God's definition of righteousness isn't a righteousness that you establish by doing works.
it is not by righteous works that i may do that He calls me righteous, not by obedience to His law, even if i were blameless under it.
it is by faith in a righteousness that is not of ourselves.
it is His righteousness, in Whom we have put our trust, not in our own which is comprised of obedience in actions.
and the result is peace and assurance forever.
but there is no rest for the wicked, just as there is no rest for anyone who - indeed setting aside the grace of God - believes they must establish righteousness of their own through constant will and exertion and effort. all our righteous works? filthy rags. Jesus tells us the attitude we ought to have about them:
the accusation that believing these things and holding to them as true means we don't do any good works? strawdude.
because of His mercy to the ungodly, we ought to strive to do what pleases Him. not in order to attain mercy, but because He has freely given it. thanksgiving offerings are not for atonement but in reply to the removal of sin
Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness.
(Romans 10:3)
God's definition of righteousness isn't a righteousness that you establish by doing works.
. . . as for righteousness based on the law, faultless.
But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ — the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith.
(Philippians 3:6-9)
it is not by righteous works that i may do that He calls me righteous, not by obedience to His law, even if i were blameless under it.
it is by faith in a righteousness that is not of ourselves.
And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
(Isaiah 32:17)
it is His righteousness, in Whom we have put our trust, not in our own which is comprised of obedience in actions.
and the result is peace and assurance forever.
but there is no rest for the wicked, just as there is no rest for anyone who - indeed setting aside the grace of God - believes they must establish righteousness of their own through constant will and exertion and effort. all our righteous works? filthy rags. Jesus tells us the attitude we ought to have about them:
So you also, when you have done everything you were told to do, should say,
'We are unworthy servants; we have only done our duty.'
(Luke 17:10)
the accusation that believing these things and holding to them as true means we don't do any good works? strawdude.
because of His mercy to the ungodly, we ought to strive to do what pleases Him. not in order to attain mercy, but because He has freely given it. thanksgiving offerings are not for atonement but in reply to the removal of sin
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LOVE is the answer bro.
.. And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you WALK IN LOVE. (walk as Jesus did) 2 John 1:5-6
.. And now, dear lady, I am not writing you a new command but one we have had from the beginning. I ask that we love one another. And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you WALK IN LOVE. (walk as Jesus did) 2 John 1:5-6
I do not know if you are still on this thread, but something was mentioned in today's Sermon, that made me think of you. Here is the Proof that your teachers have taught you an UNTRUTH.
1 Peter 1:3-4 (NASB)
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven for you,
There IS the proof that WE are BORN AGAIN, Past Tense, before our life long journey of Sanctification Can begin, becoming more and more like Like Christ.
Your INSTANT OBJECTION to our claiming the Holy Trinity is comprised of Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, is IN YOUR OPINION Pagan Nonsense. Carefully consider these Verses, and ALL OF SCRIPTURE was Inspired by GOD:
Colossians 2:9 (NASB)
9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,
Colossians 1:19 (NASB)
19 For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him,
Isaiah 43:10-11 (HCSB)
10 “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
11 I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.
Malachi 3:6 (HCSB)
6 “Because I, Yahweh, have not changed,
you descendants of Jacob have not been destroyed.
Luke 2:11 (HCSB)
11 Today a Savior, who is Messiah the Lord, was born for you in the city of David.
Think about it.
If Yahweh and Jesus are not the SAME DEITY, you have created a contradiction in the Word of GOD.
ONE DEITY made up of Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, and NO it is not Pagan Nonsense, IT IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
My advise is flee those who have been teaching you untruths.
It doesn't matter if you believe in Him or not. His Word is still truth Post. His Word is still righteous even of you believe they are
just a bunch of laws" no different than satan's "bunch of laws".
His Work's are still righteous whether you believe in Him or not. As it is written.
1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. (bunch of laws)
3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Does Matt. 17 destroy these truths? You may think so, but as it is written: Your unbelief doesn't make any of God's Word Void.
"that one verse doesn't erase the rest of the Bible, dude" ____
The Lord is good to all,
and His mercy is over all that He has made!
(Psalm 145:9)
Go and learn what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.’
For I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.
(Matthew 9:13)
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others.
(Matthew 23:23)
For judgment is without mercy to one who has shown no mercy.
Mercy triumphs over judgment.
(James 2:13)
Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
(Matthew 5:7)
Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful.
(Luke 6:36)
He saved us,
not because of works done by us in righteousness,
but according to His own mercy
(Titus 3:5)
With the merciful you show yourself merciful
(2 Samuel 22:26)
For He says to Moses,
“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
(Romans 9:15)
Therefore, having this ministry by the mercy of God, we do not lose heart.
(2 Corinthians 4:1)
I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.
(Romans 12:1)
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