Not By Works

[BillG]

Because He loved us enough to

To show the extent of the wickedness of man, to fulfill what was written about Him, to take our sins away so we can have another chance to "SERVE" Him acceptable to God.

He made a "show" openly of those mainstream religious leaders who claimed by their law He should die, but their Law couldn't hold Him. He triumphed over the mainstream religious doctrines and traditions of the land that condemned Him, the gentiles that turned to him, Paul and anyone else who believe "all things" in the Law and Prophets. To show once and for all that the narrow Path He walked truly does lead to eternity as the Law and Prophets teach.. And that through Him, we too can be reconciled.

And there is me thinking that God wanted a relationship with us so we can call him Abba Father.

A relationship where we respond to his calling to be like Jesus.

Loving the outcast, the sinners, the rejected, the poor man, the prostitutes, the marginalised, the guy who you see begging on the street pissed as a fart who you sit next to and talk to and he pukes all over you but you hold him in your arms whilst he is crying.

You know the nitty gritty things of life.
You sit in the shit bin of life with them rather than look in the bin and say "Walk out of it" You sit in it with him and walk out of it with him.

All these things I do and will continue to do.
I don't mind being puked on whilst hugging someone and stroking their head.

I don't mind being told to stick my Jesus up my effing arse because you lot condemn me because I'm an alcoholic, a smoker a gambler.

You tossposts have no interest in me as a person, you just tick a box and go on your merry way.

Very sad to lay heavy burdens on people rather than love then where they are at in order to show then Jesus.

The Jesus who will set them free from oppression and heavy burdens that society and so called bleivers place on them, the chains that need broken.

Not broken by obedience but as a result of love.

Maybe the guy who puked over me will one day or the guy who pissed on me or the lady who offered me sexual favours for money to get a night in a homeless shelter will see the love of Jesus who accepts them as they are will one day walk the streets and come alongside those who are like they were.

Is that the Jesus you follow?
That's my Jesus who I follow.

 

[O_Dude123]

Yes he did, But he did not contradict himself

John did not say, If I come to you and claim I am without sin, I am decieved and there is no truth in me, Then later say, I am saved so I can not sin.

Anyone who understands what true sin is, KNOWS they are not sinless. Paul did. John did. WHy is it so many others think they are sinless. Where does this thinking come from?

It is not a “thinking”.

It is Called Faith, Faith in God’s word.
No one can please God without Faith..

Reason why I said He continued.
Please do not miss this part.

1 John 3:6 (KJV)
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

The Bible nullifies every false belief and doctrine..It is complete, it is God’s word.
When one does not believe the word of God. Such one is not a believer.

But God who showeth mercy gives salvation to all who believes in His son. And His son is his word, and This is the word of God.

Believe and be saved, and God will stablish you in every good word and work.

 

[BillG]

Those in Matt. 7 waited to long to give God the respect He deserves and demands. It is God's Word which exposes the religious traditions of this land who promote their "lawless" practice. He did say to "Come out of her" Billy. Do you believe this is addressing a religion which strives to "Walk even as He walked, or a religion which "practices" the Lawlessness you and I both know exists in mainstream religions of the world today.

I do not agree they waited to give God the respect he deserved.
If God respected it then they would have been accepted but they were not.
They did not respect God at all.

 

[star]

I don't understand this. I seriously don't.

Why is it so difficult for some Christians to accept that salvation is a gift that cannot to earned or maintained by our works? To do so destroys the very notion it is a gift.

To say one "must" or "will" do good works after salvation to somehow "prove" one is really saved is adding to the simple gospel message of only "believe".

No one has ever been able to give a concrete answer as to how many good works are required to "show" one is truly saved. For some, a few good works are fine as long as there is a "patten" of growth. For others, it's constant toil from sunup until sundown, while begging God for forgiveness for the slightest infraction.

Begging forgiveness for sins that have already been forgiven over 2,000 years ago!

No one has to prove anything. If one, at an instant in time, believed the offer from Jesus to grant eternal life to anyone who would take Him at His word in faith, they are saved from that moment forever, and can never be lost.

No matter what they do afterward.

Once again, no matter what they do afterward.

And yes, I'm one of those Christians who believe you don't have to promise to stop sinning, you don't have to read the Bible, you don't have to go to church or even share the gospel to "stay" or "prove" you're saved. God doesn't destroy a person's free will after they become Christians. They can still choose to sin - and do - every single day, and remain just as saved, just as righteous, and just as holy as the most devout Christian that ever walked the earth.

How?

Because we have imputed righteousness, holiness, and sinlessness from Jesus Himself - as His gift - with no strings attached.

Yet, our desires do change. We don't look at sin the way we did when we were unsaved. We have the yearning to live as we ought, but acting or not acting on those desires doesn't change our citizenship in heaven.

Jesus promised - and that's good enough for me.

Amen.

 

[BillG]

Yes, I am guilty of lawlessness, nothing I can do will erase that fact. Only Jesus can remove my lawlessness. I never said anything different.

So what lawessness are you guilty off?

 

[star]

Now this act from a neighbor in my neighborhood is what I call "good works." He has taken a backhoe and scraped about a foot of snow, which fell in the last couple of days, for free too, from people's driveways. Would not accept any money nor gas. Said it was his pleasure to be able to do so.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It is not a “thinking”.

It is Called Faith, Faith in God’s word.
No one can please God without Faith..

Reason why I said He continued.
Please do not miss this part.

1 John 3:6 (KJV)
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

The Bible nullifies every false belief and doctrine..It is complete, it is God’s word.
When one does not believe the word of God. Such one is not a believer.

But God who showeth mercy gives salvation to all who believes in His son. And His son is his word, and This is the word of God.

Believe and be saved, and God will stablish you in every good word and work.

I have read that verse.

You do not abide in him 24/7 If you think you do. I take you back to chapter 1 verse 8. Where john calls you and everyone else who thinks they have attained sinless perfection decieved.

God has established me, And he continues a good wrk in me, and will complete it until the day of Christ.

Wgat I refuse to do is think, like you, I already made it.

 

[BillG]

Now this act from a neighbor in my neighborhood is what I call "good works." He has taken a backhoe and scraped about a foot of snow, which fell in the last couple of days, for free too, from people's driveways. Would not accept any money nor gas. Said it was his pleasure to be able to do so.

The nitty gritty of life Star.
Doing stuff with no thought of recompense

 

[VCO]

I reject your theology!
We all sin and come short of the glory of God!!
We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus. Period!!!

Oh my, I see you have got another one who thinks he does not sin! I do not know who you are talking to because he is on my IGNORE LIST. Here is what I tell them:

I can prove you are a Sinner:

1 Peter 2:13-15 (NKJV)
13 Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme,
14 or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good.
15 For this is the will of God, that by doing good you may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men--


Speed Limits are an ORDINANCE OF MAN:

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . ORDINANCE NO. 2003-07

AN ORDINANCE ALTERING THE PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMITS ESTABLISHED FOR VEHICLES UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF §545.356, TEXAS TRANSPORTATION CODE, UPON THE BASIS OF AN ENGINEERING AND TRAFFIC INVESTIGATION, UPON CERTAIN STREETS AND HIGHWAYS, OR PARTS THEREOF, WITHIN THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF TOMBALL, AS SET OUT IN THIS ORDINANCE; AND PROVIDING A PENALTY OF A FINE IN AN AMOUNT NOT LESS THAN ONE DOLLAR ($1.00) OR MORE THAN TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS ($200.00) FOR THE VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE. * * * * * * * * * * *

YOU HAVE JUST SINNED AGAINST GOD'S WILL, by Violating the SPEED LIMIT ORDINANCE.

 

[O_Dude123]

I have read that verse.

You do not abide in him 24/7 If you think you do. I take you back to chapter 1 verse 8. Where john calls you and everyone else who thinks they have attained sinless perfection decieved.

God has established me, And he continues a good wrk in me, and will complete it until the day of Christ.

Wgat I refuse to do is think, like you, I already made it.

You say I’m being deceived because I have Faith in God’s word.

I Can boast with Christ.. In Christ I stand. He is faithful.
Now you are accusing me because I told you the true word of God.

This is also the word of God. And I believe it.

Philippians 3:13-16 (KJV)
Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

Now The word of God offends you, because you do not even believe God’s power is sufficient to make one abide.

I believe, God’s power and wisdom is sufficient. I’m a Believer because of God’s grace.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

You say I’m being deceived because I have Faith in God’s word.

I Can boast with Christ.. In Christ I stand. He is faithful.
Now you are accusing me because I told you the true word of God.

This is also the word of God. And I believe it.

Philippians 3:13-16 (KJV)
Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

Now The word of God offends you, because you do not even believe God’s power is sufficient to make one abide.

I believe, God’s power and wisdom is sufficient. I’m a Believer because of God’s grace.

In phillipians, paul proved he had not made it yet, he kept pressing forward.

Your first order of work is to find out what sin is. If you think you are perfect. You do not yet understand all forms of sin. So please. Go study that. Then come talk to us people who refuse to think we are better than we really are.

The word of God does not offend me, Your pride offends me, and news flash. It offends God also. God said he will humble to pride. I would recommend you humble yourself before God humbles you. WHich he will do.

 

[ljs]

Now this act from a neighbor in my neighborhood is what I call "good works." He has taken a backhoe and scraped about a foot of snow, which fell in the last couple of days, for free too, from people's driveways. Would not accept any money nor gas. Said it was his pleasure to be able to do so.

Thats lovely star !!!

 

[dcontroversal]

And yet it is you two who refuse to answer the question.

Keep telling yourself that.......da plane, da plane <<--by default your job!

 

[O_Dude123]

You do not abide in him 24/7 If you think you do.

Christ said he that abideth in me, I’ll abide in him.

Also

John 14:23 (KJV)
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our ABODE with him.

True believers are the temple of God.

Christ’s word is true, it is God’s word. It is powerful.

But without Faith, One cannot even love God, nor obey his word.

Unbelief, is a great sin. The sin of unbelief, brought up so many false doctrines.

Believers believe God, believers have Faith in God.

John 3:16 (KJV)
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

[O_Dude123]

In phillipians, paul proved he had not made it yet, he kept pressing forward.

Your first order of work is to find out what sin is. If you think you are perfect. You do not yet understand all forms of sin. So please. Go study that. Then come talk to us people who refuse to think we are better than we really are.

The word of God does not offend me, Your pride offends me, and news flash. It offends God also. God said he will humble to pride. I would recommend you humble yourself before God humbles you. WHich he will do.

The word of God is for reproof, for correction, and is able to make us wise unto salvation. 😊

 

[O_Dude123]

In phillipians, paul proved he had not made it yet, he kept pressing forward.

Your first order of work is to find out what sin is. If you think you are perfect. You do not yet understand all forms of sin. So please. Go study that. Then come talk to us people who refuse to think we are better than we really are.

The word of God does not offend me, Your pride offends me, and news flash. It offends God also. God said he will humble to pride. I would recommend you humble yourself before God humbles you. WHich he will do.

Because I said, God is able to make us perfect, And Yes He is able to make us not sin, and That God said one who abides in him does not sin. you say my pride offends you, I present the word of God, as it is, and you call it pride, and you say it offends you.

Because I believe God’s word you say my Pride offends you..

Because I said I’m a believer.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Christ said he that abideth in me, I’ll abide in him.

Also

John 14:23 (KJV)
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our ABODE with him.

True believers are the temple of God.

Christ’s word is true, it is God’s word. It is powerful.

But without Faith, One cannot even love God, nor obey his word.

Unbelief, is a great sin. The sin of unbelief, brought up so many false doctrines.

Believers believe God, believers have Faith in God.

John 3:16 (KJV)
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

No one has perfect faith.

Thats why no one can be sinless

And PS it is different having faiht in God for salvation, and trusting each and every thing he wants us to do. Thats why babes in christ needs fed milk. They have to grow their faith.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The word of God is for reproof, for correction, and is able to make us wise unto salvation. 😊

I am saved

And as a saved child of God. I continue as paul to run for the prise of the high calling. Because I know I have not yet made it yet


You want to be a couch potato who thinks he has made it, Feel free..

 

[star]

Thats lovely star !!!

Isn't it a beautiful gesture? We tried to pay him but he would not accept anything. Now this is what true works, Christmas time and agape love is all about.

 

[star]

The nitty gritty of life Star.
Doing stuff with no thought of recompense

Amen.