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Hevosmies said:
Good morning world!

Here are some random thoughts: I believe the devil works through DOUBT. "is this really from God?" "am i really saved?" -> One step from this is "Oh well i already lost my salvation and blasphemed the Holy Spirit i cant get it back, i will just give up"
^Thats what the devil wants

If thats you, be encouraged that Jesus wont forsake you and as long as there is breath in your lungs, there is hope.

Cast off all doubt!
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Yes...... Repent of your sins and do not doubt because the Bible says if you repent of your sins he is faithful and just to forgive us. Repent and do not doubt his word but please do not walk around with unrepented sin thinking you're okay
The Bible mentions The Book of Life 4 times in Scripture. Three of the four deals with God blotting your name out of the book that should be enough to concern us all
 
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Budman said:
Yet again, you get backed into a corner and you bow out.

I'll ask once again for all to see: "If all people who tell lies will have their part in the lake of fire, what sins do you commit are not so bad so as you will still inherit the Kingdom?"
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Backed into a corner, by you? I would despair if that were true.
If you understood, or could answer the question I repeatedly asked of you, you would know the answer to your question.
 
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Budman said:
What sins do you commit that aren't willful?

How many sins are attributed to you that the blood of Jesus didn't wash away?

Do tell!
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I make mistakes, others do grievous willful sins.

I evaluate thing wrongly, others bear false witness.

I exaggerate and use hyperbolic language, others lie.


Isnt that how it always goes? :D
 
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unclesilas said:
Backed into a corner, by you? I would despair if that were true.
If you understood, or could answer the question I repeatedly asked of you, you would know the answer to your question.
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Can you tell me the answer to it? I dont know what question you asked of him, but would still like to your heart point of view bro!
 
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unclesilas said:
Backed into a corner, by you? I would despair if that were true.
If you understood, or could answer the question I repeatedly asked of you, you would know the answer to your question.
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Coward.

You excuse your own sins and yet claim there are "certain" sins that will cause a Christian not to inherit the Kingdom. Yet the Word says even liars will have their part in the lake of fire. So, what sins that you commit daily aren't "bad enough" to cause you to lose the Kingdom?

Your concept of the gospel is absolutely abysmal.
 
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Can you tell me the answer to it? I dont know what question you asked of him, but would still like to your heart point of view bro!
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Do you believe there is a difference between choosing to live a sinfull lifestyle you do not have to live, and hating the imperfections you do have because you want to follow Christ?
 
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if they are repenting from sin,

Peter at Cornelius’s House,
did cornelius repent from sin, before getting the gift of the holy spirit,
28 He said to them: “You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile.(acts 10)

acts 15 was asking this very question, about a gentile believer.
what law do they have for god to give them the holy spirit.
 
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unclesilas

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Budman said:
You excuse your own sins and yet claim there are "certain" sins that will cause a Christian not to inherit the Kingdom. .
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I claim it?????? Paul claimed it. But as you refuse to believe what he wrote, no wonder you don't believe anything I write either
 
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unclesilas said:
In the real world, and away from some who think they know much on the internet.

Do you believe there is a difference between choosing to live a sinfull lifestyle you do not have to live, and hating the imperfections you do have because you want to follow Christ?
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I do believe there is a difference. A Christian would like to do better!
A lost man wouldnt care

I never claimed to know much by the way so I dont know where you got that? In fact if you go through my posts here I have mentioned my LACK of knowledge/education. I only completed mandatory education and didnt even ENTER H.S! I've been educated for less than a DECADE in my life! Thats all I need. Not many of my people are well educated, READ more if you wish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people
 
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Macabeus said:
So if God prepared them for us long ago, are they not part of the endowment He gave us when He saved us, the endowment He prepared for us before we were born? Or do you think of them not as an endowment, gift, but as a duty, necessity, chore, burden, whatever. That would be a legalist.

It's really sad that you all like to call names. DC calls me a deceiver, and I posted instances of him being a deceiver above. You call me a legalist. How is it being a legalist to say that eveything we have from God is a blessing, free, undeserved, and of grace.
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here is why I call you a legalist- I have repeatedly agreed with you that Christians are supposed to be doing good works, yet because I am not word-for-word agreeing with you, you continue to argue.

that is what legalist do- micro-manage how to be a Christian.
 
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Hevosmies said:
I do believe there is a difference. A Christian would like to do better!
A lost man wouldnt care

I never claimed to know much by the way so I dont know where you got that? In fact if you go through my posts here I have mentioned my LACK of knowledge/education. I only completed mandatory education and didnt even ENTER H.S! I've been educated for less than a DECADE in my life! I can read and write, and speak two languages. Thats all I need. Not many of my people are well educated, READ more if you wish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people
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In my view, a high IQ can often limit your spiritual understanding, people often tend to rely on it to learn, rather than the only one who can lead into spiritual truth. Paul was an exception of course, for he totally relied on the Holy Spirit to learn. I am actually grateful I have no more than an average IQ(if that)
 
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unclesilas said:
My advice is stay on the internet, I cannot imagine anyone taking you seriously outside of it
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I get it - you can't answer the questions because you're a fraud. No problem. Anyone reading our exchange this morning can see you've got yourself backed into a self-righteous corner, and can't get out of it. You claim certain sins will keep a Christian out of heaven while you excuse your own sins.

You....are....a...hypocrite.
 
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unclesilas

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Budman said:
I get it - you can't answer the questions because you're a fraud. No problem. Anyone reading our exchange this morning can see you've got yourself backed into a self-righteous corner, and can't get out of it. You claim certain sins will keep a Christian out of heaven while you excuse your own sins.

You....are....a...hypocrite.
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Why oh why do I bother to respond to you. How would you know anything about me? I imagine my imperfections hurt me far more than yours hurt you. Because they hurt me, it is proof I have been born again. Others they hurt very little, and excuses are made for them.

Carry on as you are, you only show your ignorance
 
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unclesilas said:
Why oh why do I bother to respond to you. How would you know anything about me? I imagine my imperfections hurt me far more than yours hurt you. Because they hurt me, it is proof I have been born again. Others they hurt very little, and excuses are made for them.

Carry on as you are, you only show your ignorance
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Oh, save the pity party and put your big boy pants on.

You made serious claims about the security of believers based on certain sins, and when that light gets turned on you, you bail with nothing but excuses.
 
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unclesilas

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Budman said:
Oh, save the pity party and put your big boy pants on.

You made serious claims about the security of believers based on certain sins, and when that light gets turned on you, you bail with nothing but excuses.
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By Budman, I am letting myself down badly chatting to you. I will put you on ignore
 
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