Not By Works

[eternally-gratefull]

Remember now, Jesus says He is going to after that sheep UNTIL He finds him. So is Jesus incompetent in NOT finding some, and do those He find have to be re-reborn when He finds them?

They can;t take self out f the equation bro. They are stuck in the flesh, while claiming they are in the spirit.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.
As you go, preach this message: 'The kingdom of heaven is near.'
Matt 10:6-7

Jesus called Israel the lost sheep. Yet he did not expect them all to repent and turn to Him.
So the parable is saying He looks for "His" sheep, the ones He knows will be found, will respond,
not to those who refuse to repent.

So we can end up saying the same thing in different words.
A sheep could come and then wander, but were never truly a sheep of Christs pen.

So here is the problem. We can be certain about something that is not important, and miss the promise
of safety that the Lord is giving to His people. And to this I say, Praise the Lord, Thank you Jesus.

Jesus never called them all sheep. Once again your putting something in the passage which is not there,

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Wrong
Yes, those are sins which COME out of the flesh
but that is the wrong interpretation
Once again, WHat does it mean? (Its not that hard what does the term flesh mean? Is it not SELF?)

I wonder is "wrong" a scriptural response.

In this way the priest will make atonement for him for the wrong he has committed unintentionally, and he will be forgiven.
Lev 5:18

You know in your heart all the wrong you did to my father David. Now the LORD will repay you for your wrongdoing.
1 Kings 2:44

It appears you are saying I am committing some evil.
I have declared scripture and you are saying scripture is wrong. Not a good place to go, but as you want.
Please explain what you mean, as you seem so certain about your understanding.
I am listening....... I am not expectant, because you have opportunity but little courage to share.

p.s. it is easy to make bold statements, be assertive, even rude, but if you cannot deliver, it is just provocative

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Jesus never called them all sheep. Once again your putting something in the passage which is not there,

"never called them all sheep"

Never call who all sheep?
I am the gate for the sheep. John 10:7
you do not believe because you are not my sheep. John 10:26
Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. Matt 10:6
When he saw the crowds, he had compassion on them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.
Matt 9:36

The sheep analogy applies to Israel, to the crowds, to Jesus's people.
So it is up to how you wish to interpret the use of the word.

I do not see your view, partly because I am not sure how you are expressing it.
Who is Jesus not calling sheep?

 

[FollowHisSteps]

I said you were wrong, Your still wrong
If you just asked a question, I gave you the answer, You were wrong
You gave some overt sins which people who are seeking after the flesh do. so your answer was wrong
Woud you like to try again? Or remain blind as to what the term means? and continue to excuse your sin while judging others?

I am wrong. Good we got that straight. Do not know what about, but I think this is what you
really just want to say. I thank Jesus He is our right, our Halleluyah, our Praise and worship, the one before we all fall.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Jesus laid on my heart this reality.
If to walk like Jesus is evil, is judging others, is not His intent, then these believers has never met Jesus.

Jesus said to the disciples "Follow me" Matthew 4:19
He says to the rich young man, "If you want to be perfect .... follow me" Matthew 19:21

And those who say Paul did not follow Jesus's example, they are lying

Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.
1 cor 11:1

It is slightly sad, amusing, perplexing to see people struggle with the plain truth of Jesus.
But then some people believe in the flat earth, but I will not condemn them, as long as they do
not harm others, I like sharing on forums, which is probably as sad lol

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I wonder is "wrong" a scriptural response.

In this way the priest will make atonement for him for the wrong he has committed unintentionally, and he will be forgiven.
Lev 5:18

You know in your heart all the wrong you did to my father David. Now the LORD will repay you for your wrongdoing.
1 Kings 2:44

It appears you are saying I am committing some evil.
I have declared scripture and you are saying scripture is wrong. Not a good place to go, but as you want.
Please explain what you mean, as you seem so certain about your understanding.
I am listening....... I am not expectant, because you have opportunity but little courage to share.

p.s. it is easy to make bold statements, be assertive, even rude, but if you cannot deliver, it is just provocative

lol. Peter, You have not changed a bit

You are wrong, because you are wrong.

People who are wrong due to ignorance, it is not a sin.

But you soon will not be able to claim this

 

[eternally-gratefull]

"never called them all sheep"

Never call who all sheep?
I am the gate for the sheep. John 10:7
you do not believe because you are not my sheep. John 10:26
Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. Matt 10:6
When he saw the crowds, he had compassion on them, because they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd.
Matt 9:36

The sheep analogy applies to Israel, to the crowds, to Jesus's people.
So it is up to how you wish to interpret the use of the word.

I do not see your view, partly because I am not sure how you are expressing it.
Who is Jesus not calling sheep?

There you go, Jesus said some of his disciples (Where were jews) WHERE NOT HIS SHEEP.

is it starting to make sense now?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I am wrong. Good we got that straight. Do not know what about, but I think this is what you
really just want to say. I thank Jesus He is our right, our Halleluyah, our Praise and worship, the one before we all fall.

Thats right, And instead of tryign to figure out why you said something about him, and find out what he is really saying, You would rather ignore it and refuse to admit your sin.

I forgot. You like to slander people. and instead of finding out why you misrepresented them, You like to excuse your own sin.

Yep. Its all coming back. I knew if we went long enough who you were would start to show..

 

[FollowHisSteps]

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers,
neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Rom 8:38-39

There are those who will always try and separate us from the love we have in Christ Jesus.

But in Christ Jesus we no longer live to the passions of this world but to those of the Kingdom of Heaven

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.
Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
Gal 5:22-26

Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ. For the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.
Rev 12:10

The accuser will always accuse us before our God of being wrong, but one day he will be hurled down.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

seek after the flesh.

WHat is it a person does BEFORE they commit sexual sin? What is their mental attitude, or better yet, WHO ARE THEY THINKING OF? (I used sexual sin here, But any sin has the same root cause.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers,
neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Rom 8:38-39

There are those who will always try and separate us from the love we have in Christ Jesus.

But in Christ Jesus we no longer live to the passions of this world but to those of the Kingdom of Heaven

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.
Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
Gal 5:22-26

Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ. For the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.
Rev 12:10

The accuser will always accuse us before our God of being wrong, but one day he will be hurled down.

I am not trying to separate you from Gods love, I do not believe anyone can, (Your the one who thinks you can, not me) SO you saying I am accusing you to separate you is a false concept.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

Thats right, And instead of tryign to figure out why you said something about him, and find out what he is really saying, You would rather ignore it and refuse to admit your sin.
I forgot. You like to slander people. and instead of finding out why you misrepresented them, You like to excuse your own sin.
Yep. Its all coming back. I knew if we went long enough who you were would start to show..

My friend, I hope I can help you.

refuse to admit your sin. You like to excuse your own sin.

What are you talking about? Please can you show me what you are saying from scripture,
or else it is meaningless. Maybe you have a fixation of accusation of others. You seem to
be demonstrating it here. What I wonder is driving this?

 

[FollowHisSteps]

I am not trying to separate you from Gods love, I do not believe anyone can, (Your the one who thinks you can, not me) SO you saying I am accusing you to separate you is a false concept.

Hello. I am not addressing you, I was sharing about my heart before my Lord Jesus Christ and His love.
Have you something to comment about?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

My friend, I hope I can help you.

refuse to admit your sin. You like to excuse your own sin.

What are you talking about? Please can you show me what you are saying from scripture,
or else it is meaningless. Maybe you have a fixation of accusation of others. You seem to
be demonstrating it here. What I wonder is driving this?

Really? This all seems to familiar

You claimed budman says he is caught in sin, that is not correct, even if you think it is, it is not, so continually trying to say it is true is sin.

Ok???

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Hello. I am not addressing you, I was sharing about my heart before my Lord Jesus Christ and His love.
Have you something to comment about?

Can you answer my question about why we commit sin? What does it mean to seek after the flesh?

You let me know some sins, and i agree with paul and you what some are.

But why do people do them? (Seek after the flesh)

 

[Rosemaryx]

lol. Peter, You have not changed a bit

You are wrong, because you are wrong.

People who are wrong due to ignorance, it is not a sin.

But you soon will not be able to claim this

I asked him out right if he was Peter Jens , he said he knows not off this person ? , Stones asked if he was his twin LOOL , sorry , but it made me laugh when I read it , and now you think he is Peter Jens , how strange to have three of us thinking this , he really really does write like him...xox...

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I asked him out right if he was Peter Jens , he said he knows not off this person ? , Stones asked if he was his twin LOOL , sorry , but it made me laugh when I read it , and now you think he is Peter Jens , how strange to have three of us thinking this , he really really does write like him...xox...

If we go back and look up peters posts, it is quite easy to see the resemblance, he uses the exact same arguments.

 

[FollowHisSteps]

The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.
Some have wandered away from these and turned to meaningless talk.
They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
1 Timothy 1:5-7

This verse speaks so well to what some are actually doing. Does not each generation repeat the same realities.
It does not matter, because His sheep listen to His voice and know His call.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.
Some have wandered away from these and turned to meaningless talk.
They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
1 Timothy 1:5-7

This verse speaks so well to what some are actually doing. Does not each generation repeat the same realities.
It does not matter, because His sheep listen to His voice and know His call.

So if his sheep know his call, and come

And if they get lost, he promises to go find them and come because again, they know his voice

How could someone ever lose salvation?