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Who but Satan would be behind you saying you refute obeying God.
Pal.....your deception and twist proves that God does not lead you...your lack of honesty and integrity is appaling....she refutes your false gospel and has never said we do not or are not to obey........what a deceiver and embellisher you are.....sickening!
 

YourTruthGod

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John 11:25-26
And Jesus said to her
" I am the resurrection , and the life , he who BELIEVES in Me will live even if he dies
and EVERYONE who lives and BELIEVES in Me will NEVER die , do you believe this YTG...xox...
I believe in everything Jesus says. What does this say:

John 8:51 I tell you the solemn truth, if anyone obeys my teaching, he will never see death."
 

YourTruthGod

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Helping them what?
Making them twice a child of hell by putting the burden of working for their Salvation ?

You better find a new hobby.
How do you ever get that God will put in hell those who obey Jesus?
 

YourTruthGod

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Repent does mean to change your mind...and the Holy Spirt convicts the world of SIN WHY????

Because they BELIEVE NOT ON ME........

DUDE.....you will never come to the truth until you can be HONEST with the words inspired by God......argue all you want.......the absolute truth is the absolute truth!!!
Just believing in believing will do nothing for you, nothing, it is dead.
 

YourTruthGod

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Because those that devalue the work of Jesus by embellishing the gospel with works and some false self purifying dogma have trusted into a message with no power to SAVE......!!!
I think you got a glimpse of how sinful you speak.
 
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I believe in everything Jesus says. What does this say:

John 8:51 I tell you the solemn truth, if anyone obeys my teaching, he will never see death."
Have you sold all that you have, given it all away to the poor?......Nope.....what are you typing on.....see...your are not all that and a bag of obey chips
 

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In your false doctrine, you have to change the word 'repent of sins' to mean 'change your mind about God'.
You also have to change the word 'obedience' to mean only 'believe', instead of obey God in all ways.
You obviously have some major comprehension issues. Repent does not mean a change of mind and not sinless perfection. I never said obedience only means obey. Apparently, what I explained to you in my posts went right over your head. :cautious:
 

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hahahahhahahahah there are NONE RIGHTEOUS AND NONE GOOD PAL.....ESPECIALLY iF THEY NEED TO BE SAVED....MAN.....your dogma is really full of holes and ignorance
Paul was quoting the old testament scriptures. The scripture says no one righteous who has not lived without sinning once. No such thing as the Bible contradicting itself saying no one is righteous.
 
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No, but they have updated numerous times and I had an older version which contradicted their newer version and a few of their "false gospel spreaders" tried like heck to get my OLDER VERSION because it needed to be DESTROYED
I probably have the older version..lol Had it since early 90s
 
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Paul was quoting the old testament scriptures. The scripture says no one righteous who has not lived without sinning once. No such thing as the Bible contradicting itself saying no one is righteous.
Listen pal.....You are wrong and false.....NONE ARE GOOD and EVEN JESUS SAID IT WHILE SAVED, IMMERSED disciples and apostles were on the earth in the present tense......get your facts straight deceiver
 

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Not what it says...and you know...the SNAKE embellished the word in the garden...you do that quite regularly...I suggest you open your eyes and thelogically adjust what you say.....!!!
Did God really say to obey Him, dcontroversa?
 

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How do you ever get that God will put in hell those who obey Jesus?
I'm sorry, but this is really a deceitful post.


NOBODY has ever said here we shouldn't follow or obey Jesus. Is this a deliberate deception on your part?


What we have been saying is that following or obeying has ZERO to do with HIM saving us. Doing those things doesn't save us or keep us saved. JESUS ALONE does that. We follow and obey BECAUSE He saves us, makes us HIS children, and we adore Him for that. Just as any child loves and adores their father.
 
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Did God really say to obey Him, dcontroversa?
Do you have children? Do they ALWAYS OBEY YOU? Do they quit being your child if they disobey? Whay did they obey to be born your child?

Get your facts straight....we are born from above by GRACE THROUGH FAITH IN THE GOSPEL........