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Hevosmies

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The way I see it is, the folks who are preaching this "work with God's grace for a free gift" gimmick are on the wrong side of the reformation. They are firmly on the Roman Catholic side of the reformation, where its an endless cycle of rituals, confession, penance, good works and other exercises to get you into the kingdom and even then you still gotta go through purgatory. You gotta pass away in a "state of grace" in catholicism.

Thats all this is, the only difference is most of these folks dont care to know about the history of it, and they dont ask Mary to intercede for em or any of that junk, which is good, but the plan of salvation when you take all the fluff out, is IDENTICAL to that of Rome's.
 

Hevosmies

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I truly hope you never find out that a person can backslide. Sounds to me like you have way tooooo much man made indoctrination!Israel was continually being found it God in a backslidden state! try studying the word of God for yourself!
I've studied it by myself. What does Israel being backslid have to do with salvation in the here and now? They are not all Israel that are of Israel, ya know that verse?

Just like today in the churches not everyone is saved. There is the EKKLESIA, the actual CHURCH, the elect of God, the saved, the redeemed, the born again........ and then there is "the church" the buildings, the people who identify as Christians, the folks who go to church every sunday just out of habit or culture.

PS why did the font change on me!?!?
 
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IFOLLOWHIM

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I was asking what your thoughts on OSAS is all about to you.

I'm not talking about backsiding (butt I'm sure you meant backslide😎)



Oh,I believe in heavens inheritance,but it's getting there that is conditional. There are NO "Golde n tickets,nor free passes"!
 
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IFOLLOWHIM

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Can YOU lose your salvation?

Can anyone lose their salvation?

If so why so?





you can't lose something that is NOT yours. Salvation is God's guft ,redeemed by Jesus! It will always stand! He GAVE His Son for our sinful purchase price. When Jesus hung on the cross and died,He took the curse of sin! It is not a possession however,you can walk away and leave any gift behind!
 
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UnderGrace

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Oh,I believe in heavens inheritance,but it's getting there that is conditional. There are NO "Golde n tickets,nor free passes"!

Sigh and more sigh... :cry:

I need to rake my leaves before I really loose it!!

How can someone so denigrate the work of Jesus, His grace, His gift, soooooooo aggravates me to no end!!!!
 
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IFOLLOWHIM

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Sigh and more sigh... :cry:

I need to rake my leaves before I really loose it!!

How can someone so denigrate the work of Jesus, His grace, His gift, soooooooo aggravates me to no end!!!!



poor poor you,you have no understanding!
 

Lafftur

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you can answer that better than I,Bill bc I know a person can walk away from God and be backside and NO longer one of His!
Hello IFOLLOWHIM, :love:

Sometimes we get mad at God because things in our life are not what we expected God to do for us when we got saved. It hurts but, it's our flesh that's hurting so, we backslide and runaway from God but, eventually we turnaround and run back to Him.

Even when we "think" we left Him, He never leaves us. He's just patiently waiting and watching while our flesh dies but, always keeps a firm hand on our soul. Our souls shall be restored and saved.

He never leaves nor forsakes us. God loves you, my friend and so do I. God bless you! :love:(y)
 
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UnderGrace

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You talk jibberish!😂😂😂😂😂
I actually take my stand where God takes His stand, and He tells me this very clearly......

Romans 4:5
5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.
 
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IFOLLOWHIM

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The word of God is simple to understand. Jesus sent back at His ascension the Holy Spirit to comfort,to teach,to remind and guide and keep us in track!
 
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IFOLLOWHIM

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Hello IFOLLOWHIM, :love:

Sometimes we get mad at God because things in our life are not what we expected God to do for us when we got saved. It hurts but, it's our flesh that's hurting so, we backslide and runaway from God but, eventually we turnaround and run back to Him.

Even when we "think" we left Him, He never leaves us. He's just patiently waiting and watching while our flesh dies but, always keeps a firm hand on our soul. Our souls shall be restored and saved.

He never leaves nor forsakes us. God loves you, my friend and so do I. God bless you! :love:(y)




I'm not talking about emotions,I'm stating plainly " sin separates from God"! If that separation occurs so does death of our walk, our soul,all unless we repent and return. I know God's love and I also know He is not a weak God but has anger,jealousy,wrath,correction and chaistment! He expects ALL from us,just as He " gave and gives all"!