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Ruby123

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Cool, you must be used to the twenty plus hour flight. That drove me crazy.
 

Melach

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My view.....a misunderstanding and application of the word dead...........a complete, exhaustive study of the word and the application of the word carries the concept of SEPARATION......now view it that way....when a person PHYSICALLY dies their spirit is separated from their body.....the same concept is true for a lost man.....they are separated from God and since a LOST MAN cannot inherit the kingdom, they must be held somewhere......and for sure I will not argue the absurdity peddled by some on this site that push the false narrative of annihilation......the bible is clear....Lost men and women will be separated from God into hell and then moved with hell to the lake of fire where they will suffer eternally......
this understanding is confirmed by the story of the prodigal son who was "dead" but he wasnt really dead.
 

Melach

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I spend about equal time in Au and America......Holidays, friends, personal reasons etc....
>spending time willingly in australia :giggle: finland #1 (*only northern parts, the southern part is tropical climate and uninhabitable its actually middle-east in souther finland not just weather but people also)
 

Ruby123

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>spending time willingly in australia :giggle: finland #1 (*only northern parts, the southern part is tropical climate and uninhabitable its actually middle-east in souther finland not just weather but people also)
Watch it Melach!! ;)
 

VCO

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I want to learn to trust him more. I tend to get anxious rather easily. It seemed to help me to pray I put my faith and trust in Jesus.

YES IT DOES, I even will even have an ongoing conversation with HIM, knowing HE HEARS ME, because HE is in me, and I am in HIM.

This will help immensely: if you memorize it, and take into your HEART {Human Spirit}.

Matthew 6:25-34 (ESV)
25 “Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing?
26 Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?
27 And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life?
28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin,
29 yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’
32 For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all.
33 But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.
34 “Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.


Philippians 4:5-7 (HCSB)
5 Let your graciousness be known to everyone. The Lord is near.
6 Don’t worry about anything, but in everything, through prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God.
7 And the peace of God, which surpasses every thought, will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.
 

VCO

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oh oh! if God calls me to be a missionary to the amazon river i am going. thats true

LOL. I quit drawing lines where I wouldn't go, when HE CALLED me to start a prison ministry, near Crescent City, Ca.

I have got to tell you a story, about my prayer partner and I, when we first moved to Susanville, CA., 90 miles northwest of Reno, NV. Jim and I would meet up on the side of mountain once a week, over looking Susanville; where we would Pray for those sick and needs in our Church, then for the LOST people in Susanville, and then we would pray for our wants and desires, in closing. Jim would prayer that he could become a Volunteer Protestant Chaplain at the Prison; and I would Pray that HE could use me on the Mission Field.

AND GOD ANSWERED THOSE PRAYERS!

ONLY we got those prayers backwards,
JIM was called to be a School Teacher for Missionary Kids on Amazon River,
and I was called to start a Prison Ministry near Crescent City at Pelican Bay State Prison.
 

VCO

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I have a question.....
When God told Adam not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil otherwise he would surely die. How do we know that it is spiritual death?
I think ADAM would still be alive today, if he did not sin.
Physical Death came into this world through the SIN of Adam.
Eternal Spiritual LIFE can come in through the one Man's death on the Cross, for those who BELIEVE.
 

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My view.....a misunderstanding and application of the word dead...........a complete, exhaustive study of the word and the application of the word carries the concept of SEPARATION......now view it that way....when a person PHYSICALLY dies their spirit is separated from their body.....the same concept is true for a lost man.....they are separated from God and since a LOST MAN cannot inherit the kingdom, they must be held somewhere......and for sure I will not argue the absurdity peddled by some on this site that push the false narrative of annihilation......the bible is clear....Lost men and women will be separated from God into hell and then moved with hell to the lake of fire where they will suffer eternally......
Amen
 
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I think ADAM would still be alive today, if he did not sin.
Physical Death came into this world through the SIN of Adam.
Eternal Spiritual LIFE can come in through the one Man's death on the Cross, for those who BELIEVE.
i think the die was cast...Gid begab to reconcile man unto himself before he cast down creation........unlike the "MATRIX" and the proverbial glitches......Adam was destined to sin......or so it seems!
 

VCO

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i think the die was cast...Gid begab to reconcile man unto himself before he cast down creation........unlike the "MATRIX" and the proverbial glitches......Adam was destined to sin......or so it seems!

Yes, I too believe ADAM brought the terminal disease of the SIN NATURE, into ever human being.

What gets me, is these people who do not think they sin any more. I think they have failed to study what all GOD considers SIN. They fail to realize the Thought is as bad as the deed.
 
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Well.....good morning peeps....another day of NOT earning or maintaining salvation by what we do or don't do........

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe!

Trust Jesus before it is too late....do not be found in the MANY grouping that believe in their mind that the right to enter is based partially or completely upon the MANY WONDERFUL WORKS THEY DO IN THE NAME OF JESUS........that road leads to being rejected by the Son........!!