Not By Works

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Feb 28, 2016
11,311
2,974
113
Yes star I do...
I was saying to God this morning in my quiet time with Him that I do not think I can ever stop thanking Him for saving me through His beloved Son our LORD and Savior Jesus Christ...

The deeper I get in the word with Him , the more I see what He has done for me , it catches my breath every time...
...xox...
==================================
yes Rose,
this is our whole point', we must 'know His Word' in order to live it and walk in it - it's never about our age or our
physical condition, it's always, and I mean, always, to be about our 'obedience and respect and honour that we feel
and appreciate for our Saviour's Holy Scarifice, for this is our catalyst to 'over-come' our 'past-lives', and be able to
rejoice in our new lives that will bring us into His saving Grace...
 

Melach

Well-known member
Mar 28, 2019
2,057
1,526
113
$400 a week is what I pay for my house which is on 5 acres....
i think its cheap considering the size.

in here its like this: here in north its really ok prices for rent, like 1bedroom apartment can be in the centre of the town in a small town for like 350€ month. but in helsinki you get same 1bedroom apartment for 950€ so its ridicilous there.
 

Whispered

Well-known member
Aug 17, 2019
4,551
2,230
113
www.christiancourier.com
We will all bear our own judgment. The sad thing is there is nothing I can do to help. I think there is more hope for my brother who believes he is God and knows that he dosent know Jesus but is able to show kindness to me. "For as much as you have done it to the least of these My friends you have done it to Me." You make it obvuous that you walk in the light of your own eyes. "If the light that is in you be divided (causing divisions) how great is that darkness." You are a warning for others not to fall in pride of achievment that blinds and leads the blinds. The veary judgment you judge others with is your lot. Your not the Judge, "The judge stands at the door." I judge no one.
Well put. You exercise righteous judgment, which is not forbidden nor condemned in scripture. You point out the malevolent heart that deceives, and that is what we're suppose to do. The Saint Apostle Paul's letter to the churches in Corinth. The Book of 1st Corinthians chapter 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?

Be aware too that malevolent hearts can also be due to our encountering a child, chronological age not withstanding. Children lash out and are amused when their behaviors are thought to bring harm to others.
The Saint Apostle Paul's words are wise and apply to any age.
 
Sep 6, 2014
7,034
5,435
113
We will all bear our own judgment. The sad thing is there is nothing I can do to help. I think there is more hope for my brother who believes he is God and knows that he dosent know Jesus but is able to show kindness to me. "For as much as you have done it to the least of these My friends you have done it to Me." You make it obvuous that you walk in the light of your own eyes. "If the light that is in you be divided (causing divisions) how great is that darkness." You are a warning for others not to fall in pride of achievment that blinds and leads the blinds. The veary judgment you judge others with is your lot. Your not the Judge, "The judge stands at the door." I judge no one.
I think there is more hope for my brother who believes he is God
Well, the problem with that statement is manifold.

Your brother who believes he is God would be blaspheming.

John 10:33
“We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.”
and knows that he dosent know Jesus but is able to show kindness to me..
Hypocrisy is Satan's forte.

He would appear to be your best friend, just like his children.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their actions.

Luke 12:1
In the meantime, a crowd of many thousands had gathered, so that they were trampling one another. Jesus began to speak first to His disciples: “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
Matthew 23:33
You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape the sentence of hell?
 
Sep 6, 2014
7,034
5,435
113
I am thinking that @dcontroversal is very, very intimidated by me, because so far he has not called me "LostHour"

Hahaha....hehe
Nah... you deserve a more honorable title like "even in the last hour"....

Matthew 20:9
9And when those hired about the eleventh hour came, each of them received a denarius.

We are fellow laborers in the vineyard, no?

Glad to have you here friend. :)
 

stillness

Senior Member
Jan 28, 2013
1,257
211
63
69
Walk trough the valley
Hahaahahha what a hypocrite you are.....while mouthing me and accusing me of judging, you judge me hahahahah Trust Jesus by faith pal.....your time under the sun is short! Oh....and....get the telephone pole put of your eye before you worry about the splinter in mine!
Do you realy think you want to bear your own Judgment. A hipocrite is not a splinter its living a lie. Your looking in the miror of the perfect law of fredom. The Truth that sets us Free. All you have is acusations as if you have to defend yourself. We have died with Christ: there is nothing to defend, nothing. "Without Love I am nothing." We dont have Life in quarels and should be sorry, Im sorry for being part of this and come to the Lord Jesus for deliverance. Forgetting whats behind to have Grace to go on.
 

stillness

Senior Member
Jan 28, 2013
1,257
211
63
69
Walk trough the valley
Oh, my. :( Where are those statistics? Would you share them please? I think they'd be important in giving this discussion added perspective concerning persecution.
The statistics are all over the place. First, in the bible: "One shall be taken on shall be left." The persecution of the church in Rusha and China... And in nature also One out of two eaglets does not make it to maturity. Surprisingly the language of parable is very consistent.
 

stillness

Senior Member
Jan 28, 2013
1,257
211
63
69
Walk trough the valley
Well put. You exercise righteous judgment, which is not forbidden nor condemned in scripture. You point out the malevolent heart that deceives, and that is what we're suppose to do. The Saint Apostle Paul's letter to the churches in Corinth. The Book of 1st Corinthians chapter 5:12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?

Be aware too that malevolent hearts can also be due to our encountering a child, chronological age not withstanding. Children lash out and are amused when their behaviors are thought to bring harm to others.
The Saint Apostle Paul's words are wise and apply to any age.
Thanks for your refreshing words. My thought today was to change my password to somting I would not remember. Thanks be to Gos who always gives sufiscient Grace, wondering what we are doing here.
 

stillness

Senior Member
Jan 28, 2013
1,257
211
63
69
Walk trough the valley
Well, the problem with that statement is manifold.

Your brother who believes he is God would be blaspheming.

John 10:33
“We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.”

Hypocrisy is Satan's forte.

He would appear to be your best friend, just like his children.

2 Corinthians 11:14-15
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their actions.

Luke 12:1
In the meantime, a crowd of many thousands had gathered, so that they were trampling one another. Jesus began to speak first to His disciples: “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
Matthew 23:33
You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape the sentence of hell?
Yes I understand the lie of the fall: to be as gods, and we have all been there to some extent. Many years ago when I felt like walking away from my brother, he told me: open your bible and God will give you a word. I opened it to, "Judge nothing before the time." He still has new age belief and I still dont judge... He has helped me on my journey recently. Thats what I ment by, "For as much as you have done it to the Least of My friends, you have done it ro Me." So by receiving and helping me he receives Jesus. And I leave him in Gods hands. The main thing is that we learn to Love. We dont learn in understanding but in our heart, through suffering with Jesus.
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
Yeah...AU prices.....but.....when I am allowed to work I make almost $2500 a week.....so....not bad really!
WOW, that is a big ouch. My house Payment is only $429 a month in Lincoln, NE., but I had a 70% down payment from the house I sold in Nevada.
 

stillness

Senior Member
Jan 28, 2013
1,257
211
63
69
Walk trough the valley
Acknowleging we cant of ourselves. "Not by the work of righ relationship we have done, but by the unfluence of His Spirit in our heart," to come to Jesus and die with Him in the reconciliation of the cross; trowing away fear of death by Grace sufiscient to perfec us in Love.
Hahaahahha what a hypocrite you are.....while mouthing me and accusing me of judging, you judge me hahahahah Trust Jesus by faith pal.....your time under the sun is short! Oh....and....get the telephone pole put of your eye before you worry about the splinter in mine!
Acknowleging we cant of ourselves. "Not by the work of righ relationship we have done, but by the unfluence of His Spirit in our heart," to come to Jesus and die with Him in the reconciliation of the cross; trowing away fear of death by Grace sufiscient to perfec us in Love.
 
E

EleventhHour

Guest
Yeah...AU prices.....but.....when I am allowed to work I make almost $2500 a week.....so....not bad really!
$400.00 per week seems very reasonable .... In Vancouver you will work very hard to find anything under $250.00 a night.

Of course the average price of a home in Vancouver is over a million.... and the greater Toronto area is not far behind.
 
E

EleventhHour

Guest
Nah... you deserve a more honorable title like "even in the last hour"....

Matthew 20:9
9And when those hired about the eleventh hour came, each of them received a denarius.

We are fellow laborers in the vineyard, no?

Glad to have you here friend. :)
Thank you....you are very kind.

It always struck me that those who worked less were given the same wage and significance of it....honestly I wonder?

The first shall be last and last shall be first.

Reminds me of a friend who arrived very late to wedding reception and there were no seats left so they sat him and his wife at the head table with the bride and groom.

True story.
 
E

EleventhHour

Guest
For the History Buffs, the Movie "MIDWAY" is worth seeing, saw it this afternoon.
Thank you for mentioning this I was thinking to go see it but was not sure.
That last movie I went to see I would have walked out except that I was with friends and they drove. :(
 
E

EleventhHour

Guest
Returning to give admiration to God who delivers us from existance among the dead, to Live to come to Him who Loves us more than we know, all of us.
All your high sounding words, sentiments and grand notions about love are meaningless apart from the truth of Gospel.

Your works, your love, your devotion, your kindness, do not save!