Not By Works

[eternally-gratefull]

"If anyone would come after Me, he must deny his soul(what he wants, thinks and feels), take up his cross(where his will and God's will cross) and follow Me. For whoever wants to save his life/soul will lose it, but whoever loses his life for Me will find it. What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole word, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels, and then He will reward each person according to what he has done."

I die daily. A covenant is in effect only when men are dead.

What good is a covenant if a man is dead? Any covenant would be useless to him

 

[Chris1975]

keep it going. good idea.

to all the guests reading this, please note that the 2 people who shout about holy living and not sinning the most have up to this point have refused to acknowledge or discuss the actual, Biblical definition of he word " sin".

I urge all to please beware of anyone who talks a lot, shouts down judgement from a fake moral high horse, but refuse to talk about certain things pertaining to Scripture.

beware.

Take your pick (Hebrew and Greek):

Word: D@HG

Pronounce: khat-taw-aw'

Strong: H2403

Orig: or chattacth \i khat-tawth'\i0\plain\f3\fs21\cf23 ; from 2398; an offence (sometimes habitual sinfulness), and its penalty, occasion, sacrifice, or expiation; also (concretely) an offender:--punishment (of sin), purifying(-fication for sin), sin(-ner, offering). H2398

Use: TWOT-638e Noun Feminine

Grk Strong: G49 G93 G265 G266 G458 G763 G2434 G2588 G3152

1) sin, sinful
2) sin, sin offering
2a) sin
2b) condition of sin, guilt of sin
2c) punishment for sin
2d) sin-offering
2e) purification from sins of ceremonial uncleanness


Word: amartia

Pronounce: ham-ar-tee'-ah

Strongs Number: G266

Orig: from 264; a sin (properly abstract):--offence, sin(-ful). G264

Use: TDNT-1:267,44 Noun Feminine

Heb Strong: H817 H1870 H2248 H2398 H2403 H2483 H2932 H4284 H4878 H5771 H5931 H5949 H6586 H6588 H7200 H7561 H8441

1) equivalent to G264
1a) to be without a share in
1b) to miss the mark
1c) to err, be mistaken
1d) to miss or wander from the path of uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong
1e) to wander from the law of God, violate God's law, sin
2) that which is done wrong, sin, an offence, a violation of the divine law in thought or in act
3) collectively, the complex or aggregate of sins committed either by a single person or by many

For Synonyms see entry G5879

 

[RebuildJesussChurch]

Our security in Jesus Christ eternally eclipses your desire to see us doomed. I know you hate that, pussycat.

Yet another example of how I know that you are correct and my devotion to the One who saved me out of all my sins and gave me of His Spirit am in error: You are SO like Christ. Indeed, you are a little Christ, a little "anointed one" - a "Christian". O, my despair at 24 wasted years in His service and in sweet fellowship with Him, abiding in His Word which I love! Now I know that it must not have been His Spirit ministering to me - must not have been Him who took me out of all that depravity . What a fool I have been!

 

[gb9]

That's right!
Go back to your regularly "selective" OSAS programming!
"Sponsored" by: "he who deceives the whole world, in the eyes and the wisdom of men!"

Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

I am NOT o s as.
I DO know the only way for one to saved is to BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ.

no Law or Sabbath keeping required . we are to follow the N.T. instructions as to how to live, with 9 of the 10 being repeated , but nooo Sabbath required , was NOT repeated.

 

[Chris1975]

keep it going. good idea.

to all the guests reading this, please note that the 2 people who shout about holy living and not sinning the most have up to this point have refused to acknowledge or discuss the actual, Biblical definition of he word " sin".

I urge all to please beware of anyone who talks a lot, shouts down judgement from a fake moral high horse, but refuse to talk about certain things pertaining to Scripture.

beware.

Now that you have been given the definition. Make sure you don't live in it.

 

[NayborBear]

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First, I did not say you are following anyone, I asked a question, who are you following?

Secondly, where did I say that one works for salvation? You appear to be like those when they cannot respond accordingly they would immediately attack.

Thirdly, I do not believe in luck and you need not call me pal when it is coming out of you sarcastically.

Actually? I think he likes ya man!
But, after it filters through his fingers?
It just comes out jeaously!

"So many "flatterers, with flattery's!"

So little time!

 

[VCO]

Interesting desire you have. John simply says the answer to your definition is walking in the light.

You did NOT answer the question.

 

[Lightskin]

Yet another example of how I know that you are correct and my devotion to the One who saved me out of all my sins and gave me of His Spirit am in error: You are SO like Christ. Indeed, you are a little Christ, a little "anointed one" - a "Christian". O, my despair at 24 wasted years in His service and in sweet fellowship with Him, abiding in His Word which I love! Now I know that it must not have been His Spirit ministering to me - must not have been Him who took me out of all that depravity . What a fool I have been!

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

 

[Lightskin]

At any point in time you see maybe 50 members online, but over 2000 guests who read these threads at the same time. Its not trying to convince those I/we debate with. If that were the case it would be dust the feet and move on to the next town (website ). No, its about presenting the truth. To those God calls, truly calls, they need to compare and the Holy Spirit will draw out those that are His.

So keep it going!

If only you understood your failed, heretical attempts at unnecessarily trying to maintain salvation then you would stop poisoning the minds of our 2,000 guests.

 

[JohnW34]

You did NOT answer the question.

Is your focus on sin and condemnation or on walking in the light and being purified?

Focus on walking in the light and you will find fulfilment of Johns testimony.

 

[Chris1975]

If only you understood your failed, heretical attempts at unnecessarily trying to maintain salvation then you would stop poisoning the minds of our 2,000 guests.

Well one of these guests (with zero postings) disliked your comment. Probably to let you know that they are out there and can see through your charade.

 

[Lightskin]

Are you walking in darkness? If so, you are not in the light, and Jesus' shed blood is of no effect for you.

Eleven walking in darkness? 😆😆😆

 

[EleventhHour]

Well one of these guests (with zero postings) disliked your comment. Probably to let you know that they are out there and can see through your charade.

Charade....too funny .....you just gave credit and support to our resident Roman Catholic troll.

 

[EleventhHour]

Actually? I think he likes ya man!
But, after it filters through his fingers?
It just comes out jeaously!

"So many "flatterers, with flattery's!"

So little time!

Just a preposterous post ....jealousy get real.

 

[Lightskin]

Well one of these guests (with zero postings) disliked your comment. Probably to let you know that they are out there and can see through your charade.

Chris, you’re not THAT dumb. The “guest” you speak of is our daily troll with numerous accounts who gets banned when sniffed out. Now stop with YOUR charade.

 

[Lightskin]

Charade....too funny .....you just gave credit and support to our resident Roman Catholic troll.

He’s not smart enough to know that but he proclaims to be smart enough to say we who embrace the fullness of Jesus Christ’s grace are in error. You can’t make this stuff up, Eleven.

 

[EleventhHour]

__________________________

First, I did not say you are following anyone, I asked a question, who are you following?

Secondly, where did I say that one works for salvation? You appear to be like those when they cannot respond accordingly they would immediately attack.

Thirdly, I do not believe in luck and you need not call me pal when it is coming out of you sarcastically.

Your first line in response to @dcontroversal was ..."you cannot substantiate your view from scripture"

Seems clear to me.

 

[NayborBear]

I am NOT o s as.
I DO know the only way for one to saved is to BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ.

no Law or Sabbath keeping required . we are to follow the N.T. instructions as to how to live, with 9 of the 10 being repeated , but nooo Sabbath required , was NOT repeated.

And, it is good that you do!
Now ya gotta ask yerself: "Believe to mature spiritually, and teach?"
Or, "Believe to remain saved, not mature spiritually, and be taught?"

Far as sabbath keeping, or any of the other laws of Moses I may make mention of?

It doesn't bother me AT ALL, that you don't keep a sabbath!

That's between you and the Lord your God!

What bothers me, is that it bothers you so much, that I do.

Which is between me, and the Lord MY God!

And when questioned about it? Responding with: "Well?"...."Kinda comes with the territory."

And, posting verses pertaining to how it is I got to "that territory?"

I can't FORCE you, or anyone else, to replace "the wisdom of man", for the "knowledge of God."

That's something God has to do!

All one HAS to do? Is lean not on your own, or any other mans' wisdom, or interpretation, or understanding. Sounds pretty simple and easy don't it?

Cuz, when God "does a WORK in one?" It is called a "strange work" by God, in Isaiah.

 

[Lightskin]

It doesn't bother me AT ALL, that you don't keep a sabbath!

Whew! Now we can all sleep better tonight.

 

[NayborBear]

Just a preposterous post ....jealousy get real.

Keep those "flattery's" coming!
Bespeaks volumes concerning the "false wheat" rising up in you, and your boy friends crop!