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The Book of Romans chapter 11:29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

Why is Moses not a role model? (per your signature)
God does not take His grace back because it is irrevocable, but He does and will remove His grace and give it to another. He removed His grace from the nation of Israel and gave it to the Gentiles. Eventually when the Israelites return to God, He will restore his grace to them.

Rom 10:19-21 KJV
(19) But I say, Did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.
(20) But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.

(21) But to Israel he saith, All day long I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

Rom 11:4-8 CEV

(4) But the Lord told Elijah, "I still have seven thousand followers who have not worshiped Baal."
(5) It is the same way now. God was kind to the people of Israel, and so a few of them are still his followers.
(6) This happened because of God's undeserved kindness and not because of anything they have done. It could not have happened except for God's kindness.
(7) This means that only a chosen few of the people of Israel found what all of them were searching for. And the rest of them were stubborn,

(8) just as the Scriptures say, "God made them so stupid that their eyes are blind, and their ears are still deaf."

About Moses
Num 31:14-18 KJV
(14) And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.
(15) And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
(16) Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
(17) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

(18) But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
 
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He does take the gifts back. He shuns the wicked and gives them to another. God took His grace away from the nation of Israel, apart from the remnant that is, and gave it to the Gentiles. I can only think that Israel must have been exceedingly wicked, to lose their standing with God.
Hell is not a gift

its earned

you still have a lot to learn.

Israel is still Gods chosen.

he just let foreigners live in their land because of their sin.

his gifts are irrevocable..
 

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Hell is not a gift

its earned

you still have a lot to learn.

Israel is still Gods chosen.

he just let foreigners live in their land because of their sin.

his gifts are irrevocable..
Keep pressing on:
I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. (Php 3:14 KJV)
 
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Keep pressing on:
I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. (Php 3:14 KJV)
I do too

knowing I will never hit that mark, but not being so arrogant to think I have or will hit it

and God knows that because his mark is high (perfection) yet loves me anyway

you have to be born again first.until them you can press all you want, you will still fail
 

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I do too

knowing I will never hit that mark, but not being so arrogant to think I have or will hit it

and God knows that because his mark is high (perfection) yet loves me anyway

you have to be born again first.until them you can press all you want, you will still fail
Glad to hear it. I came to Jesus and asked him into my heart. I was only a child at the time. My father told me Satan would flee away if Jesus was there and ever since I have been trying to live a life that pleases Him. i.e. pressing to the mark. I sometimes fail but God is gracious. A childlike faith is all that is needed. Blessings.
 

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and God has been Good to me.

This 5 minute rule is so annoying.
 

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good morning, it was good to read the verse from Romans 11-29
 

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so are people who say that "God removes His grace".

what a lie that is..
Now, now. God withdraws his grace from the wicked, most of the Israelites fo example, grants it to others, and in Moses day drowned the rest.
 

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nCov virus coming from china 3 cities there blocked we're all gonna die. again. i predict this is another media frenzy as always. even black plague didnt end everyone only third of europe

i had the swine flu and lived to tell the story. really just a regular flu.
 

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God does not take His grace back because it is irrevocable, but He does and will remove His grace and give it to another.
Semantics. You’re saying the same thing but using different words. Grace is either irrevocable or it is not. Praise God it is irrevocable.
 

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Now, now. God withdraws his grace from the wicked, most of the Israelites fo example, grants it to others, and in Moses day drowned the rest.
God withdrew His salvation to the Israelites who believed Him? Very interesting. Scripture please: book, chapter, verse.
 

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Semantics. You’re saying the same thing but using different words. Grace is either irrevocable or it is not. Praise God it is irrevocable.
God's grace belongs to the righteous.
 

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God withdrew His salvation to the Israelites who believed Him? Very interesting. Scripture please: book, chapter, verse.
No, those who still believed, the remnant were saved.