Not By Works

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Lightskin

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How can people disagree with that?
And yet you don’t forgive people. Instead you make snide little comments and then cry like a “kitten” when people come back at you. Forgive me, “kitten”.
 

PS

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I have people on ignore, so if I do not reply, you will know why.
 

gb9

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No harm in telling the truth. In fact, I would be in trouble if I didn't.
alrighty then.

when decon and others slam your wrong beliefs, then they are telling the truth.

use your own words here as reference, and do not complain.
 

PS

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alrighty then.

when decon and others slam your wrong beliefs, then they are telling the truth.

use your own words here as reference, and do not complain.
What truth do they have?

By the way, it is the others you should be having words with regarding insults.
 

PS

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And tell me something else. Where is grace on this forum?
 
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EleventhHour

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And tell me something else. Where is grace on this forum?
Everywhere ... eternal assurance, eternal security, once saved always saved... all based on the Grace of God.

In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory.

Ephesians 1:13-14
 

Melach

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That is not the Spirit of Christ who said to turn the other cheek. I recognised your spirit as soon as I met with you.
return fire sounds better than turn the other cheek really. i have always said turn the other cheek if we obeyed that we would be under islamic rule today the whole world. or under hitler or some other rule

it doesnt work really except for personal disputes. and dcon isnt in a personal dispute with you its about the gospel and this is the internet. he isnt going to do anything to you, just going to type some words ok? you can breathe at ease lolz. no cheeks being slapped in here.
 

Melach

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I doubt the disciples would want you in their company.
i often worry about that. we look back to apostolic times as long ago far away and we werent really there. but apostles were people too. so i wonder would i have gotten along with the apostles? would i have liked them? its easier to like people you never met lolz
 

Melach

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Stupid boy. I'm talking about the very first Christians, my forebears.
i agree PS many people on this forum are just name calling others and demeaning others. no christian grace shown around here isnt that what you said?

:ROFL: really how can you post that first and then complain about name calling and christian grace?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Then make sure you understand what the poster is saying. If they are a Christian, you cannot / should not accuse them of practising salvation by works.
I understand them

And you are practicing salvation by works

You can deny it all you want. If I see a rock, I am gonna call it a rock.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You constantly lie about others.

To say "you speak against works" or suggest that someone IS against good works, that is taking a stance that you honestly believe they see good works as evil or something to avoid.


No one here has done that.


To say someone trusts in works to be saved, it means they see the difference between being unsaved and saved is the actions they do opposed to solely being covered by Jesus.
I am not sure where all his anger comes from. Its sad.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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How can people disagree with that?
because he said the work of forgiving someone is required to be saved.

forgiveness is work, if it was not. it would be easy. But the human condition does not like to forgive when we have been hurt.

What he should have said, Is those who are saved by faith, forgiveness is a fruit of the spirit. Because we are fogiven makes it easier to forgive other, ie the power of love.
 

Melach

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Interesting question coming from someone who is not Christian as per your profile.
i bet this guy is one of those Jesus' words only christians. lets throw away most of the new testament. st.paul's letters are gone because he is corrupted. hmm that means we have to throw out luke too so acts and gospel of luke is gone. st.peter endorsed st.paul in his second epistle so those are gone. we got gospel of matthew and john and mark left along with book of revelation. enjoy new testament nothing about the church starting no pentecost nothing. great.
 

PS

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because he said the work of forgiving someone is required to be saved.

forgiveness is work, if it was not. it would be easy. But the human condition does not like to forgive when we have been hurt.

What he should have said, Is those who are saved by faith, forgiveness is a fruit of the spirit. Because we are fogiven makes it easier to forgive other, ie the power of love.
Forgiving is a work. I have never heard such nonsense.
 

PS

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So tell me anybody where grace is on this forum?