Not By Works

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blue_ladybug

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Oh.... That's how.... Very impressive:)
I remember under one of the earlier chat models for CC the quotation marks are restricted symbols...(still don't know why) so whenever I wrote quotes, I'd have to put up four apostrophes, two on either end.
I save them to my computer, then upload them on here.. :)
 

Tellion

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LOOKS LIKE MOCHA CREAMER IN IT, but such a small CUP.


More my size!


BUT HERE IS A CUP I WANT!

I'll take it. It just started snowing again, after it started warming up so nice and the sun came out.... Now it's cold again.... And snowing:-|
 

VCO

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I'll take it. It just started snowing again, after it started warming up so nice and the sun came out.... Now it's cold again.... And snowing:-|

Yes after three days in the low fifties, it is supposed to snow tomorrow here TOO.


 
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I rarely listen to "Christian" music.about ten years ago I was in Vancouver, waiting to put my car onto the ferry, and everyone was standing outside of their cars, I heard an entire conversation between two male "Christian"musicians.

One was really down because he was going to sign up with a big "Christian" record company...and when he went to the exec's office to sign the papers ..the exec (male) had lines of cocaine ready and asked for sex before signing the papers.

That musician stated he high tailed it out of there and was devastated.

At least with "secular" music one know's what one is listening to.

Just my personal preference. I do not need music to create warm fuzzy feelings towards God like so many modern day churches.

The Satan/Devil is pretending to be Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ and have done so for over 2000 years.

Quote:
And Satan is worshipped by men under the name of Jesus; and Lucifer is worshipped by men under the name of Brahma; and Leviathan is worshipped by men under the name of Allah; and Belial is worshipped by men under the name of Buddha.
Aleister Crowley
 

OneOfHis

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The Satan/Devil is pretending to be Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ and have done so for over 2000 years.

Quote:
And Satan is worshipped by men under the name of Jesus; and Lucifer is worshipped by men under the name of Brahma; and Leviathan is worshipped by men under the name of Allah; and Belial is worshipped by men under the name of Buddha.
Aleister Crowley

You need to take your head out of rabbit holes and read the bible.


So far I've seen only crazy error not of God from you.


I can't tell if you're a troll or serious but you haven't shown a drop of wisdom.


"If you can bear to have Sex, it must be between mature married Man and Woman and for procreation only."

These are your words, which are far from the Holy spirit or anything good. It is a form of fleshly bondage paired with a blindness of Gods order.


You must do Works to obtain Salvation!
Works is a Requirement for Salvation!
Without Works Salvation does not exist!
Not doing Works, you have never been Saved!
^^^
This right here is of the devil himself.
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Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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This is the OPPOSITE of what you disgustingly claim and paraphrased (incase english is troubling you)

"God in His mercy saved us who have faith as a gift and appart from our merit, we have no room to say we earned anything which He gave"


Titus 3:5
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;


Romans 11:6 - And if by grace, then [is it] no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if [it be] of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
 
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It is that way, based on scripture.

Romans 4:5

But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,

John 6:28-29 King James Version (KJV)

28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.


A person's foundation is either based on Elohim/God or the Satan/Devil. Faith is demonstrated by Works.
 

OneOfHis

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John 6:28-29 King James Version (KJV)

28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.


A person's foundation is either based on Elohim/God or the Satan/Devil. Faith is demonstrated by Works.

Wrong

You don't have the ability to understand Jesus it seems.🤔


Jesus is saying "THIS is the WORK OF GOD >YOU< believe in who HE sent"


🤦‍♂️

You are seeming less like a real person and more like a troll because of your serious blindness to what the verses you post mean.
 

OneOfHis

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God requires absolute 100% spotless perfection from birth till death, one sin and there is no amount of works that YOU can do which will cover those crimes against God.


On earth you can't murder then walk enough old ladies across the street to make up for it to a judge who dishes out justice.

It is the same but more grand before God who sees our thoughts and what we do in secret.


The only way to be justified (every single moment) before God is to have the righteousness of CHRIST BY Him IMPUTING it to us.

This is what God does for all who believe. Then we are born again, made new and kept by HIS power.


Your false religion worships vain works and man to save you....



The truth gives ALL glory to God. (which is far different than the picture you paint)


@Elihoenai
 

OneOfHis

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Another possibility is that you don't understand anything you are reading in Scripture.
This is you.

You are blind and are currently functioning as a wolf trying to devour Gods sheep. (thankfully we have have a shepard who keeps us safe and you are one sad excuse for a wolf with no teeth or muscle)
 
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You need to take your head out of rabbit holes and read the bible.


So far I've seen only crazy error not of God from you.


I can't tell if you're a troll or serious but you haven't shown a drop of wisdom.


"If you can bear to have Sex, it must be between mature married Man and Woman and for procreation only."

These are your words, which are far from the Holy spirit or anything good. It is a form of fleshly bondage paired with a blindness of Gods order.



^^^
This right here is of the devil himself.
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Acts 26:24 King James Version (KJV)

24 And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad.


Apparently, much learning doth make thee mad.

For more, readers can have a look at the Antisexuality Thread:
https://christianchat.com/threads/antisexuality.189724/post-4134460


You need to take your head out of rabbit holes and read the bible.
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God says
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Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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This is the OPPOSITE of what you disgustingly claim and paraphrased (incase english is troubling you)

"God in His mercy saved us who have faith as a gift and appart from our merit, we have no room to say we earned anything which He gave"


Titus 3:5
5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;


Romans 11:6 - And if by grace, then [is it] no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if [it be] of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
James 2:21-22 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)

21 Abraham our father -- was not he declared righteous out of works, having brought up Isaac his son upon the altar?

22 dost thou see that the faith was working with his works, and out of the works the faith was perfected?


Works proves your Devotion to Elohim/God.
 
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EleventhHour

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John 6:28-29 King James Version (KJV)

28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.


A person's foundation is either based on Elohim/God or the Satan/Devil. Faith is demonstrated by Works.
If you are working for salvation then your foundation is definitely not Jesus.

And yes works can demonstrate faith to support one's testimony before men......however saving is always apart from works.
 

OneOfHis

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Works proves your Devotion to Elohim/God.

Wrong.
Before God, even as Abraham we are imputed righteousness and justified by faith.

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For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness."

"Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."

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Before man, even as PETER who denied Christ to appear to NOT be a follower of Christ (successfully) our faith goes together with showing Gods love in us (opposed to being VOID of works of righteousness) to demonstrate we are part of HIS body.

A man may say this or that, but if you are walking as a child of God ought to... it is a lot harder for a man to say anything.

Scripture is clear that in the sight of God, it is by FAITH.


galatians 3

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Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.


Romans 4

2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,



Not before God.


James 2:18

“Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.”


James 3
For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
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Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.
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Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.
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Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
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And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
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For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
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But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
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Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
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Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
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Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?

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This is about how we ought to walk and show Gods love in us.


James 2:3

“And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:”




Not be partial or "fake" loving in word only.

This is not about being justified before God but functioning as a living member of His body FOR others.🤦‍♂️



if your god needs proof to see who he or she saved


They are not the God of the bible, He knows all things and saves by His mercy opposed to works of righteousness. (which you ignore completely and just post out of context verses in your blindness)