Not By Works
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I absolutely agree
I find this very disturbing truth be told... the allegiance by some on this thread is based on a shared belief of "salvation by grace through faith apart form works" and it is not a gang mentality as keeps being charged.
Again more irony... considering this new allegiance between one who adamantly pushes salvation can be lost and one who holds firm to OSAS.
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Remember a couple weeks ago when I joined this forum and @EleventhHour and I got into this huge fight because nobody understood what I meant?
And how justified I was in acting like a huge jerk?
And how justified I was in acting like a huge jerk?
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It would be much better if you went back in this thread and read and reconsider your allegiance with @Judges1318.
Because I seriously do not believe you agree with him ... his foundation is completely faulty and he preaches a false gospel from the start.
Because I seriously do not believe you agree with him ... his foundation is completely faulty and he preaches a false gospel from the start.
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Id rather be sweet to everyone... I just get frazzled when people lie about what i say and lie about what i meant.
it is ok to assume but if i correct you about what I WAS SAYING and like p4t you just go on making up stories imputing intent and frankly lying against Gods children.. whats the point of discussion?
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I have gone back and read what you wrote with regards to @Judges1318 and you were absolutely right in your understanding of his words.
There are deeper issues at play here and I really think it has little to do with doctrine.... the same ole scenario keeps playing out on this thread people come back to make a point and vindicate themselves.
There are deeper issues at play here and I really think it has little to do with doctrine.... the same ole scenario keeps playing out on this thread people come back to make a point and vindicate themselves.
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and proved p4t false claims against me wrong...
he claimed i didnt know what a strawman was, i did know
he suggested i implied he thought God needed to see evidence to know who is His, i never did
he outright fabricated an entire story about me "calming down" and "admitting i agree" or so some nonsense, never happened
last we spake he said a believer can finish the bible very quickly without spending much time a day
i agree but i just wanted to share a thought :some people, like me, approach the bible in a way to learn and grow and are less focused on "finishing" it and it took me almost two years to read the bible but i read it upwards of 10 hours most days (which is true i was under the bondage of sinless perfection like elo)
he took that as me saying it is unreasonable to say a christian cant read the bible that fast even if they spent as much time as me🤦♂️
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i didnt disagree with him
i shared my experience on a forum to encourage OTHERS to focus more on learning whats in it than saying "finished"
he claimed i didnt know what a strawman was, i did know
he suggested i implied he thought God needed to see evidence to know who is His, i never did
he outright fabricated an entire story about me "calming down" and "admitting i agree" or so some nonsense, never happened
last we spake he said a believer can finish the bible very quickly without spending much time a day
i agree but i just wanted to share a thought :some people, like me, approach the bible in a way to learn and grow and are less focused on "finishing" it and it took me almost two years to read the bible but i read it upwards of 10 hours most days (which is true i was under the bondage of sinless perfection like elo)
he took that as me saying it is unreasonable to say a christian cant read the bible that fast even if they spent as much time as me🤦♂️
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i didnt disagree with him
i shared my experience on a forum to encourage OTHERS to focus more on learning whats in it than saying "finished"
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Wise words, but also sad,
My intent was not to make an enemy but to show that @Judges1318 has a doctrine that cannot be supported, it is not personal.
My intent was not to make an enemy but to show that @Judges1318 has a doctrine that cannot be supported, it is not personal.
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Did you see this......
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life." - 1 John 5:13
This is how we know that we live in him and he in us: He has given us of his Spirit." - 1 John 4:12-13
Do I read anything about works being attached to knowing we have eternal life.
All these verses point to God as the source of our affirmation....... not our works!
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life." - 1 John 5:13
This is how we know that we live in him and he in us: He has given us of his Spirit." - 1 John 4:12-13
Do I read anything about works being attached to knowing we have eternal life.
All these verses point to God as the source of our affirmation....... not our works!
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