Not By Works

[GandalfTheWhite]

You forgot about the tower of Babel incident, and God restricting himself to Abraham and his descendants from then on?

Abraham was not a Jew...

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

If you are a Gentile who is in the body of Christ, Paul is your apostle.

Peter never called himself the apostle to the Gentiles. 1 Peter is directed to the Jews who believed. It will take time to accept this if you are only hearing this for the first time.

So brother Paul is my salvation? What about the rest, only for the Jews?

The whole Bible is a love letter from God to us...

 

[Guojing]

So brother Paul is my salvation? What about the rest, only for the Jews?

The whole Bible is a love letter from God to us...

Moses was God's spokesman to the Jews.
Paul was God's spokesman to the Gentiles.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

You forgot about the tower of Babel incident, and God restricting himself to Abraham and his descendants from then on?

Melo HaGoyim......

 

[Guojing]

Abraham was not a Jew...

He is the father of all Jews, there were no Jews before Abraham, so what's your point?

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Moses was God's spokesman to the Jews.
Paul was God's spokesman to the Gentiles.

But Moses was not a Jew.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

He is the father of all Jews, there were no Jews before Abraham, so what's your point?

Point is the Jews are only two tribes of Israel. Where is the rest?

Abraham - not a Jew
Moses - not a Jew
Aaron - not a Jew
Jacob - not a Jew
Isaac - not a Jew
Ephraim - not a Jew

 

[Magenta]

But Moses was not a Jew.

Moses was not a Jew
And this is true
For he was Hebrew

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Moses was not a Jew
And this is true
For he was Hebrew

Love this... and a Levi

Just like we can be Canadian, American, South African and be Hebrews.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Peter is directed to the Jews who believed.

Also not entirely true. Go and look at vision he had. The gentiles were unclean... not the Jews

 

[Guojing]

Point is the Jews are only two tribes of Israel. Where is the rest?

Abraham - not a Jew
Moses - not a Jew
Aaron - not a Jew
Jacob - not a Jew
Isaac - not a Jew
Ephraim - not a Jew

Notice I used the term "Abraham and his descendants"? What is your point in trying to split hairs here?

 

[Guojing]

Also not entirely true. Go and look at vision he had. The gentiles were unclean... not the Jews

Peter had a one off incident where the Holy Spirit made him go to Cornelius. It was for a good reason, so that he could defend Paul in Acts 15.

But Galatians 2:9 made it clear he restricted his ministry to the Jews.

 

[Guojing]

But Moses was not a Jew.

Even if I grant you that point, you don't agree Moses was God's spokesman to the Jews?

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Notice I used the term "Abraham and his descendants"? What is your point in trying to split hairs here?

Moses was God's spokesman to the Jews.
Paul was God's spokesman to the Gentiles.

I am not "spliting hairs". If the Moses only spoke to the Jews, who spoke to the other 10 tribes?

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Even if I grant you that point, you don't agree Moses was God's spokesman to the Jews?

He was the spokesman to all Israel, including the descendants of other nations that was also present at Sinai

Not only Israel was present at Sinai.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

If you are a Gentile who is in the body of Christ, Paul is your apostle.

And God hath set some in the church, first, apostles...APOSTLES [Plural] (1 Corinthians 12:28).

He didn't say; And God hath set some in church, first, Paul the apostle.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

1 Peter is directed to the Jews who believed. It will take time to accept this if you are only hearing this for the first time.

Why would it be the first time?

Shouldn't we have heard about this in the Bible?

But you will not hear about it in the Bible. A false teacher has to come along with fair speeches and enticing words that appeal to our carnal mind to hear about. Not to mention with fancy colorful charts and arrows that appeal to the eyes.

 

[Magenta]

Love this... and a Levi

Just like we can be Canadian, American, South African and be Hebrews.

Moses was not a Jew
And this is true
For he was Hebrew
And a Levite too

Paul was also a Jew, a Benjaminite
A pharisee descended from pharisees
Some may have thought him wound tight
For the cause of Christ he did gloriously fight
As apostle to the gentiles he dedicated his life

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Wonderfully talented you are M

 

[Guojing]

I am not "spliting hairs". If the Moses only spoke to the Jews, who spoke to the other 10 tribes?

In God's eyes, Israel was always one nation, the 12 tribes.