Not By Works

[azamzimtoti]

The tradition of men is....... 'I secure my own salvation by my performance."

God states clearly this is how He saves (done)......

8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
Ephesians 2:8

The problem with this guy is cherry picking while not understanding the context and audience.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

Where is she led away with divers lusts? This ought to be good.

Paul didn't say.

I imagine lead away into error.

And that's not good, as you put it.

Sorry.

I thought you were referring to your question at post # 134,384

 

[Micaiah-imla]

The tradition of men is....... 'I secure my own salvation by my performance."

Meditate upon these things; give thyself wholly to them; that thy profiting may appear to all. Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: FOR IN DOING THIS THOU SHALT BOTH SAVE THYSELF, AND THEM THAT HEAR THEE. (1 Timothy 4:16).

This is the tradition that were are told to hold to (2 Thessalonians 2:15).

HEAR YE, AND GIVE EAR; BE NOT PROUD: FOR THE LORD HATH SPOKEN. (Jeremiah 13:15).

 

[Micaiah-imla]

The problem with this guy is cherry picking while not understanding the context and audience.

The audience is anyone with ears to hear.

 

[azamzimtoti]

No no, Eleven has already been saved in child bearing.

 

[azamzimtoti]

The audience is anyone with ears to hear.

This is where your problem lies.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

No no, 11 has already been saved in child bearing.

Better than BY FIRE (1 Corinthians 3:15).

 

[Micaiah-imla]

This is where your problem lies.

You are subverted and you sin (by your own admission I gather; if you are OSAS).

The Bible says that such are heretics (Titus 3:10).

There are those who cease from sin (1 Peter 4:1). But I guess THAT audience ceases from sin, not YOUR audience.

Such madness.

 

[CherieR]

Am I deluding myself?😢😢
i love the word and study thereof,I feel Jesus and the HolySpirit in my walk.J
i am Spirit filled with the initial evidience but the way of some talk is I am LOST.😢😢😢😢😢

Hello , G2RBeliever, are you doing ok? Why the sad teary emoji?

 

[azamzimtoti]

You are subverted and you sin (by your own admission I gather; if you are OSAS).

I see you've take up Satan's role as accuser of the brethren.

 

[azamzimtoti]

Better than BY FIRE (1 Corinthians 3:15).

Wrong, it's as by fire - and of course you don't understand what Paul means "as by fire".

(1 Cor 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.)

 

[EleventhHour]

You are subverted and you sin (by your own admission I gather; if you are OSAS).

The Bible says that such are heretics (Titus 3:10).

There are those who cease from sin (1 Peter 4:1). But I guess THAT audience ceases from sin, not YOUR audience.

Such madness.

Madness is thinking a person can cease from sin, moreover the scripture states the truth is not in them.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John 1:8

 

[Micaiah-imla]

I see you've take up Satan's role as accuser of the brethren.

Satan accuses the brethren of doing good works only while God treats them right.

Paul told the brethren who to look out for. I used Paul's scripture to discern where you are coming from.

 

[CherieR]

Is there a tradition of silly women?

Nah.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

Madness is thinking a person can cease from sin

Peter was not mad. He described those who cease from sin.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John 1:8

I know very well that you have already "investigated" the rest of 1 JOHN out of its plain meaning.

So, move on.

 

[azamzimtoti]

Satan accuses the brethren of doing good works only while God treats them right..

That makse sense - not.

 

[Micaiah-imla]

That makse sense - not.

Show me some scripture where Satan accused the brethren of being heretics.

 

[azamzimtoti]

I know very well that you have already "investigated" the rest of 1 JOHN out of its plain meaning.

So, move on.

Of course you want to move on while ignoring:

(1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous)

Of course you're well past needing an advocate.

 

[EleventhHour]

I know very well that you have already "investigated" the rest of 1 JOHN out of its plain meaning.

So, move on.

What is the proper meaning.. do tell?