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I am not nitpicking, but thank you for that.

I would not know. I read most all her posts and try to discuss the Gospel she gets all defensive.

You...try and discuss the Gospel with me....that’s a joke...scroll back everyone and see how she has addressed me and other members....
 
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EleventhHour

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You...try and discuss the Gospel with me....that’s a joke...scroll back everyone and see how she has addressed me and other members....
Sigh

I wait for those who stand firm and articulate the Gospel. and then I am affirming.
I am cautious and we are told to be so in scripture.
 
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Can you share it for me. I think I know what you believe but I am not sure. I love hearing what people rhink

That Jesus died on the cross he was crucified and took all of mankind’s sin..so that we could be saved.
God created man in his own image,in the image of God,he created him male and female.
The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living being.
 
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The Armour Of God.
Finally,be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power,.
Put on the full armour of God so that you can take your stand against the devils schemes.
For our struggles is not against flesh and blood,but against the rulers,against the authorities,against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
Therefore put on the full armour of God,so that when the day of evil comes,you may be able to stand your ground and after you have done everything to stand.
Stand firm then,with the belt of truth buckle round your waist,with the breastplate of righteousness in place and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
In addition to all this take up the shield of faith,with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit,which is the word of God.
And pray in the The Spirit on all occasions with all kind of prayers and requests.
With this in mind be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.
 
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That Jesus died on the cross he was crucified and took all of mankind’s sin..so that we could be saved.
God created man in his own image,in the image of God,he created him male and female.
The Lord God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and the man became a living being.
So you went to him because you acknowledge you were a sinner
and you believe you have eternal life that he who began a good work will complete it. Ie. You are eternally secure or hold to the fact that once you were saved you will always be saved?
 
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Agreed.

He definitely does NOT order (manipulate) the deeds of men (which includes raping little girls and killing people by chopping off body parts.)
Have you not read the Old Testament? Genesis - Acts?

Yes. God allows these things, even cannibalism.

Have you not read?

Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Deut 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

How do you believe we wrestle against spiritual beings AND God is controlling all we do?Is it all just a game where He pretends there is love? Or did you mean something else?
Are you being serious in these statements?
 
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EleventhHour

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You...try and discuss the Gospel with me....that’s a joke...scroll back everyone and see how she has addressed me and other members....

One thing is for sure I have never mentioned anything about your fruit.
 
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So you went to him because you acknowledge you were a sinner
and you believe you have eternal life that he who began a good work will complete it. Ie. You are eternally secure or hold to the fact that once you were saved you will always be saved?
I cried out to Jesus
He testified all of what you say here to my spirit..when I went and bought a bible there it was in scripture..the same when he testified to my spirit that I was born again...there I was in scripture...he also testified to my spirit that Jesus was crucified on the cross..God testified the truth to my heart.
 
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EleventhHour

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He testified all of what you say here to my spirit..when I went and bought a bible there it was in scripture..the same when he testified to my spirit that I was born again...there I was in scripture.
So Jesus talked to you directly before you heard the Gospel?
 
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One thing is for sure I have never mentioned anything about your fruit.

No..but you pointed out about me not being saved.
Someone had to point out your fruit..I did a few times..then along came a few other members and pointed out the same thing.....seriously think about it....just as you pointed out the gospel to me.
 
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I don’t know anything about a room...sorry I don’t trust any room..where ever it may be....I will not be a target for those two...to rip my faith and belief to shreds..
And yet here you are . . . seeking their attention.
 
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EleventhHour

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No..but you pointed out about me not being saved.
Someone had to point out your fruit..I did a few times..then along came a few other members and pointed out the same thing.....seriously think about it....just as you pointed out the gospel to me.
You read it wrong... it was about your doctrine and that is all.

I warned you about @Judges1318 that was one of my first posts to you.
 

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With you doing nothing at all? The people this was written to had already done something.
Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

In the next verse we read:
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Why did they already do something as you said ("always obeyed")? Work is immediately attributed to God, God worked in them first to desire righteousness, and then do things He liked. They are defined as a receiving participant.

Mary the mother of Jesus, as an example. Did she knit her body to be healthy and fertile, or initiate puberty? Did she engage in anything to bring pregnancy about, or even ask God for one? Did she deliver herself from stoning by an angry mob? Did she deliver Jesus from Herod? Did she guarantee by her will and effort not to miscarry or have stillbirth? Did she facilitate the travail or break water?

None of this is her work. Yet Mary is a participant in God's plan. But she must be doing something? She did receive (heard and believed) the Word of God to start with. She is a vessel for God's use. "Let everything you have said happen to me". God does not share His glory, but we are involved. I'd say our participation is one of receiving.

We can't boast, because we are receiving something that could not originate from us. Being a receiving participant isn't something we can claim as work, but I don't think receiving is doing nothing, either, if we look at receiving in Biblical context. Receiving isn't exactly a work, but also isn't exactly doing nothing, it's being still. Being still and accepting what God gives is a lot harder to do than jumping in with our ideas, which is a movement from the flesh, and comes very easy and naturally to man. By receiving, as opposed to us trying to act on our own, we mortify the works of the flesh.
 
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So Jesus talked to you directly before you heard the Gospel?
I told you I heard the gospel / message at school....what is wrong with you..do you ever listen.

I cried out to Jesus because I had been searching inside myself how I was as a person for yrs beforehand.
I was a complete and utter mess.
That’s as far as I’m going...very private and personal was my saving.
 
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I told you I heard the gospel / message at school....what is wrong with you..do you ever listen.

I cried out to Jesus because I had been searching inside myself how I was as a person for yrs beforehand.

That’s as far as I’m going...very private and personal was my saving.
do you ever listen.
I am trying believe me .. I am. :)