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Some just refuse to consider Scripture as a whole
to their folly.....
Many like to spiritualize every nook and cranny of the bible instead of just accepting the simple truth of the inspired words and embracing them for what they say....

SINFUL FLESH is clear enough and if we take the route suggested that suggested Christ had a sinful NATURE.....and that is NOT IMPLIED ANYWHERE in scripture as the SINFUL nature comes from the father.....hence the virgin birth!
 

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So, so true seeing the big picture is essential!

Truly missing the forest for the trees!!!
UG this is how I’ve felt about most of you here. Theres so much you all are Missing.

This thread is foundation and Decon does it well. But, it’s like plowing the ground over and over...
 

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Many like to spiritualize every nook and cranny of the bible instead of just accepting the simple truth of the inspired words and embracing them for what they say....

SINFUL FLESH is clear enough and if we take the route suggested that suggested Christ had a sinful NATURE.....and that is NOT IMPLIED ANYWHERE in scripture as the SINFUL nature comes from the father.....hence the virgin birth!
He did not have a sinful nature.
 
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Well said, likeness of sinful flesh does not mean sinful flesh.

God told Moses to make a bronze serpent, but not a real serpent, to depict Christ on the cross, for the same reason.
Can you believe this guy...

Sinful flesh does not mean sinful flesh

This right here is a prime example of why the many will end up in hell!

The word of God does not mean what the word of God says....this is the attitude of a man not led of God
 

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You guys aren’t seeing what all you have inherited from Father through Son.

Light. I tried to tell you at one time that our white robes are actually being clothed in light. His glory. It’s His presence within us. He wants each of us to carry His presence and do His work.
 

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Adam and Eve were of light. When they fell, their bodies and all creation with them then received human corruption.

We are reversed. Sons of light.
 

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Flesh has two meanings in Greek. One is like meat, both human and animal. , the other is human nature.
 

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The Bible is dual too. Literal/spiritual. Eyes mean both. Understanding still connected to this realm, and heavenly, connected above. Born from above. Ringette any bells?
 

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Flesh has two meanings in Greek. One is like meat, both human and animal. , the other is human nature.
Correct, so Jesus was in the likeness of sinful flesh, but not sinful flesh since he did not have our sin nature
 
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UG this is how I’ve felt about most of you here. Theres so much you all are Missing.

This thread is foundation and Decon does it well. But, it’s like plowing the ground over and over...
Yes it is foundation yes... but I do know a bit more than what I present here ..... you know it is more about defending on this thread.

It took me a long while to really get up to speed on the truth/scripture on a deeper level that really negates NOSAS.. I think all that happened for a reason.

i am not sure what you think I/we am/are missing?
 

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Phil 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Phil 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Phil 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Phil 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

God Bless!
before the cross walk-in. Now is ressurection life. The goal Paul was running the race for.
 
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Flesh has two meanings in Greek. One is like meat, both human and animal. , the other is human nature.
This is not speaking of nature....You have to choose...IF YOU deny this is an actual reference to FLESH then by default YOU are implying NATURE....BOTH of you are wrong....the implication is FLESH not nature

For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh
 

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Yes it is foundation yes... but I do know a bit more than what I present here ..... you know it is more about defending on this thread.

It took me a long while to really get up to speed on the truth/scripture on a deeper level that really negates NOSAS.. I think all that happened for a reason.

i am not sure what you think I/we am/are missing?
The walk of the Spiritual man and woman. And my finger points at myself too UG. I’ve been taught Sonship from my beginning but now I’m older and am just starting to really understand what this is about.

The millenials are getting it though. I want to see it happen.
 

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UG this is how I’ve felt about most of you here. Theres so much you all are Missing.

This thread is foundation and Decon does it well. But, it’s like plowing the ground over and over...
Like I was mentioning in the thread about signs and wonders by CS1, all of us are the protagonist of our own movie screen.

Its very hard for us to change the images of ourselves, and others, in our own movie screens.
 

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This is not speaking of nature....You have to choose...IF YOU deny this is an actual reference to FLESH then by default YOU are implying NATURE....BOTH of you are wrong....the implication is FLESH not nature

For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh
weak as it was through the natural man. But Jesus is supernatural. A word that’s been twisted in many minds to only mean demonic.
 

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Like I was mentioning in the thread about signs and wonders by CS1, all of us are the protagonist of our own movie screen.

Its very hard for us to change the images of ourselves, and others, in our own movie screens.
Because we have been conditioned by Hollywood mostly.
 
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This is not speaking of nature....You have to choose...IF YOU deny this is an actual reference to FLESH then by default YOU are implying NATURE....BOTH of you are wrong....the implication is FLESH not nature

For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh
Thank you, those two were confusing me... I see it now.

Quite clearly.. @stonesoffire it is right here.