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There is only one Truth, One Gospel and one God.
That may be true, but again it does not follow that your views about those areas are necessarily also the Truth right?

For example, is the gospel found in 1 cor 15:1-4 necessarily also the exact same gospel during the earthly ministry of Jesus?
 

Blue_Of_Lake

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Good point. As you can see, this thread is occupied by a number of people who use the word "truth" loosely.

Whatever they regard as truth for them, they want to believe it is THE truth for all.

After all, if you see it from their perspective, if they really believe what they hold as truth is THE truth, then by definition, anyone who disagrees with them must be preaching falsehood, a twister of the Word of God, and so on and so forth.

yes, i can see.
 

Blue_Of_Lake

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That may be true, but again it does not follow that your views about those areas are necessarily also the Truth right?

For example, is the gospel found in 1 cor 15:1-4 necessarily also the exact same gospel during the earthly ministry of Jesus?

and what exactly is the Gospel. there are many views. :)
 
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@Oncefallen, I believe it’s just a matter of time before you ban me for more than one reason, but none more so than my forthright persona.

I say lovingly and respectfully that I understand, and yet for the sake of integrity, please don’t lose sight of certain antagonistic CC members poking the hornet’s nest. Godspeed. 😎
Awww, the perfect coward reared his head. How adorable ~ and feminine.
 

Blue_Of_Lake

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Yes, the point was how different believers may have different beliefs about the same issue, but those different beliefs need not be divisive, so long as people can agree to disagree.

i think one thing that is missing in alot of people's understandings here ... is that they don't actually KNOW. they believe (most likely, yes this is my belief :)).


but God gives more grace. and God is love ... so, God understands that we don't know. He is not going to smite us for not knowing like He knows (all-knowing: God). :)
 

Magenta

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Through all the time on this thread with so many naysayers, those that pushed salvation can be lost, never have I seen so many

dislikes and red x's thrown out by one single person.

Sad really.
Vengeance is mine, sayeth JR :devilish:
 

Blue_Of_Lake

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Yes Jesus is the absolute truth. As long as you are a Christian, you would hold that view.

But as I have said to another here, it does not then follow that "My view of what Jesus said and meant are also the absolute truth".

very very astute.
 

Blue_Of_Lake

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Vengeance is mine, sayeth JR:devilish:

really there should be more colors for x's don't you think? red really isnt my color. maybe not yours either. :)


also, i think the banning is maybe unChrist-like. God forgives. this whole thread is about Salvation, and never lost. banning goes against grace (imo). :/ where is the Grace?
 

Magenta

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really there should be more colors for x's don't you think? red really isnt my color. maybe not yours either. :)

also, i think the banning is maybe unChrist-like. God forgives. this whole thread is about Salvation, and never lost. banning goes against grace (imo). :/ where is the Grace?
There are definitely not enough purple emojis ;)

I am not sure who you are referring to regarding the banning comment.

If you have a complaint against it, perhaps you should talk to oncefallen.
 

VCO

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Calvin was a heretic. Why would I follow his lead?

I thought we Evangelicals buried that Calvinist vs Armenian argument back in the early 80's.
You see, I only believe in 3 of the 5 points of Calvinism, so neither side gets to claim me. LOL.



So what can you call me ? ? ? How about just an ordinary Born Again Christian?
 
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@Oncefallen i have been following this thread since I joined..I have been accused of stirring trouble because i red x and disagree with quite a few posts.
Isn’t that what the emoji button is for.?

Some for a reason they seem to take it personally...they have given me many red x have I complained..absolutely not.

If you feel the need to ban me because of what they believe I am doing....them I will accept it...but I can assure you what they accuse me of is false...it’s like they are trying to control this thread.no one is allowed to voice what they believe...as they take it personally....
Thank you.
 

Blue_Of_Lake

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There are definitely not enough purple emojis ;)

I am not sure who you are referring to regarding the banning comment.

If you have a complaint against it, perhaps you should talk to oncefallen.

lol


sorry, maybe that was confusing. i just had noticed quite a few ppl banned lately. it doesn't seem Christian like to ban ppl, you know?
 
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My wife (bless her cotton socks) send me a clip about a lady the other day, about not keeping the Sabbath. My wife was alarmed because we, as a family are moving towards Sabbath keeping.

I have to thank the users of this website, because if it were not for people that challenged me mentally on these aspects I might have been lost for words and easily deceived by uninformed people. God is preparing His children and I thank Him for that.

God bless all and have a good day.
 
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That may be true, but again it does not follow that your views about those areas are necessarily also the Truth right?

For example, is the gospel found in 1 cor 15:1-4 necessarily also the exact same gospel during the earthly ministry of Jesus?
The one Truth, one Gospel, is not obscure and vague in scripture.

We can find a variety of ways to make excuses for error.

If we however desire truth we do the work that that involves.
 
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EleventhHour

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My wife (bless her cotton socks) send me a clip about a lady the other day, about not keeping the Sabbath. My wife was alarmed because we, as a family are moving towards Sabbath keeping.

I have to thank the users of this website, because if it were not for people that challenged me mentally on these aspects I might have been lost for words and easily deceived by uninformed people. God is preparing His children and I thank Him for that.

God bless all and have a good day.
Amen.

I have benefitted from challenge as well.