Not By Works

[gb9]

I'm know I'm Southern and a bit slow...but 50 words I can handle

i am a born and breed southerner also.

but, i can answer a simple question.

posthuman asked you a very simple question.

can you not give a simple answer??

 

[CherieR]

“ Be not a terror unto me: thou art my hope in the day of evil” Jeremiah 17:17

 

[posthuman]

I'm talking about the best student in the class who turns completely around in the wrong direction and deliberately shoots his arrow away from the target.

like the apostle Peter, eh

how many times did he have to be told to put away his sword?

 

[Phoneman-777]

how about 6 and a half minutes?

listen to this, it's accurate:

la CA Vrei (Take What You Want)​

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I’ve been wrong more than I’ve been right​

Fooling myself painted with pride​

Angels of death darkness and light​

Kissing my forehead​

Beautifully tasted their dreams - sown shut my eyes​

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What do you want from me?​

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Mongrels and goats​

They were the golden hooks in my nose​

Fall on my knees Lift up my face​

No longer deny Wonderful grace​

You make me cry - with one drop of blood​

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What do you want from me?​

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You took my hate​

replaced it with love​

You took the coal that healed my tongue​

You took my death​

replaced it with life​

You drove out the horrors that possessed my mind​

You showed me peace​

when I had none​

Shown me forgiveness​

forgot what I’d done​

You gave me the sky​

You gave me the sea​

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Take what You want from me​

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it's because i know what he did that i know nothing can snatch me from His hand.
it's because i am utterly in love that i cling to Him. not because i'm afraid and have no trust in Him.
He's not a terror to me; He's a Saviour; He is my Husband.

How about 3 1/2 minutes? You just gotta love the Reformation era lyrics of those bygone years. Today's CCM just can't compare:

1.
Yield not to temptation,
for yielding is sin.
Each vict'ry will help you,
some other to win.
Fight manfully onward,
dark passions subdue.
Look ever to Jesus,
He will carry you through.

2.
Shun evil companions,
bad language disdain.
God's name hold in rev'rence,
Nor take it in vain.
Be thoughtful and earnest,
kindhearted and true.
Look ever to Jesus,
He will carry you through.

3.
To him that o'ercometh,
God giveth the crown.
Through faith we will conquer,
though often cast down.
He Who is our Savior,
our strength will renew.
Look ever to Jesus,
He will carry you through.

(breakdown)
So, why don't you ask the Savior to help you,
Comfort, strengthen, and keep you?
He's willing to aid you,
He will carry you through.

 

[Phoneman-777]

In my view, much of sin is deliberate and known though some can be unconscious. I think in the majority of cases, sin is known.

Temperance is moderation in all that is good and total abstinence from all that is evil.

If our Christian walk is marked with deliberate habitual sin, it's time to check the map to see if we're on the right path.

 

[Phoneman-777]

like the apostle Peter, eh

how many times did he have to be told to put away his sword?

Not Peter at all..he learned to conquer his defects of character. King Saul, on the other hand....

 

[posthuman]

Look ever to Jesus,
He will carry you through.

see you don't seem to believe that.

 

[posthuman]

Through faith we will conquer,
though often cast down.

this is what we've been telling you, and you've been rejecting.

 

[posthuman]

He Who is our Savior,
our strength will renew.

you've been trying to convince us this is false.

 

[Phoneman-777]

So after the 2nd coming, even though we have free choice, we will always end up choosing not to sin.

Is that what you are saying?

After Jesus walks out of the Heavenly Sanctuary and says no more switching sides, we will always have the choice to sin but continuously choose not to.

The concept of "faith" ought to include "faithfulness", should it not?

 

[posthuman]

why don't you ask the Savior to help you,
Comfort, strengthen, and keep you?

do you not realize that you've been preaching to us the narrative that He won't keep us?

 

[Guojing]

After Jesus walks out of the Heavenly Sanctuary and says no more switching sides, we will always have the choice to sin but continuously choose not to.

The concept of "faith" ought to include "faithfulness", should it not?

So when you read verses that says "God cannot lie" Numbers 23:19,Titus 1:2,Hebrews 6:18, would you also interpret them as actually saying God always have the choice to lie but continuously choose not to?

 

[posthuman]

Not Peter at all..he learned to conquer his defects of character.

"Peter" did this or God working in Peter faithfully completed conforming him to His image?

was Peter looking to Peter?
or looking to Jesus?

i think you should pay attention to what you hear.

 

[Phoneman-777]

this is what we've been telling you, and you've been rejecting.

I could literally point to every other verse and say the same thing to you, but you found just one and went there...

 

[Phoneman-777]

So when you read verses that says "God cannot lie" Numbers 23:19,Titus 1:2,Hebrews 6:18, would you also interpret them as actually saying God always have the choice to lie but continuously choose not to?

Why do people lie? Fear, financial gain, ego inflation, etc.

Does a sovereign God need to lie for such reasons?

 

[Guojing]

Why do people lie? Fear, financial gain, ego inflation, etc.

Does a sovereign God need to lie for such reasons?

He might not need to, but if you want to be consistent with your doctrine, you have to say he can choose to lie?

 

[Phoneman-777]

but you didn't answer his question, and it's an excellent question:

in the resurrection will we saints be able to choose sin?
why or why not?

I've answered it already. Check the thread.

 

[Phoneman-777]

Matthew 7:23

“And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:23‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/1/mat.7.23.kjv

Those who work iniquity are not saints and never knew Christ.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn......yet another "proof text" to disprove another text with no regard for Scriptural harmony. I have an answer for Matthew 7:23 KJV, but nevermind, but you just go right on ahead and ignore Matthew 24:12 KJV.

 

[Phoneman-777]

i am a born and breed southerner also.

but, i can answer a simple question.

posthuman asked you a very simple question.

can you not give a simple answer??

Sorry, what was the question again?

 

[Phoneman-777]

see you don't seem to believe that.

I like the use of "seem". It allows you to skate up to "judge not" without crossing the line.

One might say ... *ahem* .... "IT SEEMS TO ME YOU OSAS FOLK LOVE SIN MORE THAN JESUS AND IS WHY YOU NEED A LICENSE TO KEEP DOING IT".

..but, I won't 'cause I got too much class for that. Let's keep the discussion limited to doctrine, OK?