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listen, you won't be here long if you're going to be adversarial, so allow me to give you some Good News:

For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures (1 Cor 15:3-4)

Therefore we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making His appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ: Be reconciled to God. God made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God. (2 Cor 5:20-21)
You wrote, "Nothing is interpreted in my post the fossil record speaks for itself."

No, the fossil record does not speak for itself. It is interpreted by those who have rejected God and taken Darwinism to ridiculousness.
A few months ago, they uncovered the footprints of dinosaurs, claiming they were 65 million years old in a riverbed. It was apparent the tracks were those of an enormous animal.

Now, do they mean to say that in a riverbed where there have been hundreds of floods and hundreds of dry spells, and then more floods and dry spells, these footprints would not have been washed away after 65 million years? If you believe that, I'll sell you Manhattan for 10.00 bucks. These same people claim that the Grand Canyon, which is hundreds of feet deep, was created by rushing water, yet over the same time frame, footprints made in mud that are 3 or 4 inches deep survived flood after flood for 65 million years, Bull!

I understand where you're coming from, but you will believe the creation account or the account of men who have been defying God since the beginning. I think it's a dangerous thing to call God a liar.
 
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You wrote, "Nothing is interpreted in my post the fossil record speaks for itself."

No, the fossil record does not speak for itself. It is interpreted by those who have rejected God and taken Darwinism to ridiculousness.
A few months ago, they uncovered the footprints of dinosaurs, claiming they were 65 million years old in a riverbed. It was apparent the tracks were those of an enormous animal.

Now, do they mean to say that in a riverbed where there have been hundreds of floods and hundreds of dry spells, and then more floods and dry spells, these footprints would not have been washed away after 65 million years? If you believe that, I'll sell you Manhattan for 10.00 bucks. These same people claim that the Grand Canyon, which is hundreds of feet deep, was created by rushing water, yet over the same time frame, footprints made in mud that are 3 or 4 inches deep survived flood after flood for 65 million years, Bull!

I understand where you're coming from, but you will believe the creation account or the account of men who have been defying God since the beginning. I think it's a dangerous thing to call God a liar.
Yes, the fossil record does speak for itself that’s why you won’t find humans in the earlier record. Death existed before humans.
 

JohnDB

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As we have fossils of dead creatures before humans appear in the record.
That's because you are trying to force a conclusion from the Bible that was never the intent from the creation account.

The Bible (specifically Genesis) is not a set of complete creation notes for us to understand "How God created the universe" It never had that intent or purpose. The scriptures contain history but it is not a complete history book nor was it written with that intent.

It has lessons from history that are relevant to understand if you want to have a relationship with YOUR Creator. Otherwise don't bother. But that course of action and intent is highly discouraged by me and others...meaning it's not in your best interests.
 

Cameron143

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Humans didn’t bring death into the world. Death existed long before humans existed, the fossil record shows this. So Genesis could never be an accurate representation of reality.
So tell us how things began. That way we can evaluate your representation of reality.
 

PennEd

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Reality itself. You won’t find any human existing in the early record.
Who won't find humans, and what defines an early record?

Maybe reality isn't what you think it is.
 

Karlon

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Nothing called a God/or other life has been discovered or in communication with humans. Humans have only started to explore within the cosmos. Again, based on evidence. Anyone telling you anything beyond the cosmos is simply imagining. God/s are repeated figments.
you are incorrect again. the 1st man that existed, Adam, communicated with God. i'll make this very simple for you: believe in God, Jesus & the Holy Spirit as a born again Christian & you will see & hear proof of the Holy Spirit's communication. (John 14:16,17,26 & 16:13).
 

Cameron143

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Nothing called a God/or other life has been discovered or in communication with humans. Humans have only started to explore within the cosmos. Again, based on evidence. Anyone telling you anything beyond the cosmos is simply imagining. God/s are repeated figments.
God has yet to reveal Himself to you. For those He has revealed Himself to, He's very real.
What is your evidence that wind exists?
 
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God has yet to reveal Himself to you. For those He has revealed Himself to, He's very real.
What is your evidence that wind exists?
Nothing else existing has actually been discovered. You just reside in a world where things exist. Anything outside that is a figment.
 

Cameron143

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Nothing else existing has actually been discovered. You just reside in a world where things exist. Anything outside that is a figment.
There is a reason I asked a question. What is your evidence for wind?
 
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you are incorrect again. the 1st man that existed, Adam, communicated with God. i'll make this very simple for you: believe in God, Jesus & the Holy Spirit as a born again Christian & you will see & hear proof of the Holy Spirit's communication. (John 14:16,17,26 & 16:13).
You are repeating what you read.
 

Magenta

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Nothing called a God/or other life has been discovered or in communication with humans. Humans have only started to explore within the cosmos. Again, based on evidence. Anyone telling you anything beyond the cosmos is simply imagining. God/s are repeated figments.
You are quite mistaken if you think science examines the supernatural. Science examines and attempts to understand and explain the natural world. You believe the stories that are told while saying you believe based on facts as if facts are never misinterpreted.
 
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