On what basis is man made accectable to God?

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So do you believe covenants with the Lord are not essential? Did God stop making covenants with people?
That is a completely different topic. But you will not find a single Scripture which says "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ AND also be baptized, and then you will be saved and then be born again". The two passages which appear to connect water baptism to salvation must be properly interpreted in the light of all that is said about how one is saved and then born again.
 
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Right.


Col2:12 - "12 And having-been-buried-with [G4916 (one word in Grk)] Him in THE baptism, you were raised with Him through the faith in the power [/of the operation] of God, who raised Him from the dead."






also...

Romans 6:3 - "3 3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ [note: baptized into Jesus Christ, not baptized in "water"] were baptized into his death?"
Again acts 19:1-6. Baptized unto Christ in water symbolizing burial and rebirth and then purified by the holy ghost by the laying on of hands. As was the custom and practice of ancient Saints
That is a completely different topic. But you will not find a single Scripture which says "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ AND also be baptized, and then you will be saved and then be born again". The two passages which appear to connect water baptism to salvation must be properly interpreted in the light of all that is said about how one is saved and then born again.
Well in the end I guess we can ask Christ the proper interpretation. But wouldn't it be bad to teach baptism isn't necessary and then find out that it was. If I'm in error than baptism doesn't hurt, but if you are than you would be lacking in an important aspect. I'd choose to error on the side of caution.
 
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Again acts 19:1-6. Baptized unto Christ in water symbolizing burial and rebirth and then purified by the holy ghost by the laying on of hands. As was the custom and practice of ancient Saints


Well in the end I guess we can ask Christ the proper interpretation. But wouldn't it be bad to teach baptism isn't necessary and then find out that it was. If I'm in error than baptism doesn't hurt, but if you are than you would be lacking in an important aspect. I'd choose to error on the side of caution.
It symbolizes what God actually does to us.

It does not actually do the things.