Once Saved Always saved....Read this
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All we need to do is receive Christ for salvation..............believe and you SHALL be saved.
Falling away does not mean " loss of salvation" Or " you were never really saved"
If falling away means loss of salvation or they were not really saved because they had no root.............means that every babe in Christ who never had the opportunity to grow in grace and knowledge after salvation would not go to heaven.
A person who believes in Christ for salvation in his truck while listening to the radio and suddenly has a fatal crash...........would not go to heaven because he had no root?
From my experience, 90% of babes in Christ get snatched away into religion. They grow in religion and have DEEP,DEEP roots in religion and have learned to live a "good life" but have no root in the truth of Christ and His Grace.
God uses divine discipline, others who KNOW the truth, His word and tender prompting for them to return...........but many choose not to return.
If they don't return, God has the sin unto Physical death as His last resort. He just takes the believer Home.
Falling away does not mean " loss of salvation" Or " you were never really saved"
If falling away means loss of salvation or they were not really saved because they had no root.............means that every babe in Christ who never had the opportunity to grow in grace and knowledge after salvation would not go to heaven.
A person who believes in Christ for salvation in his truck while listening to the radio and suddenly has a fatal crash...........would not go to heaven because he had no root?
From my experience, 90% of babes in Christ get snatched away into religion. They grow in religion and have DEEP,DEEP roots in religion and have learned to live a "good life" but have no root in the truth of Christ and His Grace.
God uses divine discipline, others who KNOW the truth, His word and tender prompting for them to return...........but many choose not to return.
If they don't return, God has the sin unto Physical death as His last resort. He just takes the believer Home.
J
Myself, i'm strictly interested in the truth - what God's word has to say on the subject.
What else to do? One could point out scripture after scripture on the subject that proves against what you hold to.
If scripture stands against the concepts you present, and it is taken to be accurate at all (Do you or don't you believe God's word?), yet you persist in holding the stance you do... *sigh*
What's dangerous here is that this 'doctrine' you present has potential to lead people to believe that it's OK to stray away from the path of Life, from living with a living God.
The funny thing is, what's truly comical and wonderful to me, is that he just wants to spend time with us, he just wants to be Dad.
Moses was just some dude, dig?
What else to do? One could point out scripture after scripture on the subject that proves against what you hold to.
If scripture stands against the concepts you present, and it is taken to be accurate at all (Do you or don't you believe God's word?), yet you persist in holding the stance you do... *sigh*
What's dangerous here is that this 'doctrine' you present has potential to lead people to believe that it's OK to stray away from the path of Life, from living with a living God.
The funny thing is, what's truly comical and wonderful to me, is that he just wants to spend time with us, he just wants to be Dad.
Moses was just some dude, dig?
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I am safe in Christ, because of His one time sacrifice for sin(Heb 10:12), by His blood I am secure!
"And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood" Rev 1:5
"And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood" Rev 1:5
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What is even more amazing, is the same could be said to you. Much scripture would contradict your belief that salvation can be lost (thus must be earned)
But then again, All we would be doing then is throwing eggs and nothing would ever be settled. So instead of playing your game, and just attacking you.
I will just leg you go on believing what you believe, unless you really want to study.
But then again, All we would be doing then is throwing eggs and nothing would ever be settled. So instead of playing your game, and just attacking you.
I will just leg you go on believing what you believe, unless you really want to study.
J
/facepalm
you don't earn it. jesus did.
you don't have to keep the gift of his love, you can treat it like dirt, but there are sure to be consequences.
this is what the bible teaches.
moses didn't set foot into the promised land because he took credit for what God had done.
you don't earn it. jesus did.
you don't have to keep the gift of his love, you can treat it like dirt, but there are sure to be consequences.
this is what the bible teaches.
moses didn't set foot into the promised land because he took credit for what God had done.
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Then it can;t be lost. If it can be lost, You must earn it by doing whatever you have to do to hold onto it. Why can't you see this? Oh thats right, you face palmed me. Meaning your eyes are closed. and you will not even listen to what I am trying to say.
Yep. Many on that day will be standing wiht a bunch of wood hay and straw which are now in ashes, But hey, they will still be saved. (and I pray that is not me, although I will be gratefull to God he kept his promise inspite of my imaturity)
Yep it does.. Gold silver precious stone, wood hay and straw. Study it.
Moses lost an earthly blessing, He never lost salvation, Unless you think the man who showed up with Jesus on the mountain was not moses?
Yep. Many on that day will be standing wiht a bunch of wood hay and straw which are now in ashes, But hey, they will still be saved. (and I pray that is not me, although I will be gratefull to God he kept his promise inspite of my imaturity)
Yep it does.. Gold silver precious stone, wood hay and straw. Study it.
Moses lost an earthly blessing, He never lost salvation, Unless you think the man who showed up with Jesus on the mountain was not moses?