Oneness

[jinx]

hypotheses: "one of the three real and distinct substances in the one undivided substance or essence of God."

You are dividing God up again. You cannot do that when He is ONE. Is a mother, wife and teacher three or One? I suggest she is ONE person the same as God is ONE God. You haven't got it have you.

I don't even get what you believe and for the longest time I thought you was a oneness believer... hahaha

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

I dont know what homie is. He's a sweet guy though, dont agree with alot of what he says and he misunderstands a lot of my post, but he's sweet

The serial killers always are. (humor)

my neck of the woods is wet right now. This rain/flood is awful.

Agreed. This is the new hybrid season called "sprinter".

 

[homwardbound]

That's right for the Trinity Homeward.

I'm sure we have met on another forum, I forget his screen name now but he used to use Cherry pie analogy a lot.

The other part you speak of is why we need to be born again, or better still born of the Spirit.

by point it s all oneness and when we were brought unt the fold by belief we therefore were also made one with God through the death and resurrection
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[homwardbound]

homie is everywhere... LOL

thanks Jinx and hope to everyones benefit, I am just available if that means anything, just growing and sharing things that have helped me grow

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

hypotheses: "one of the three real and distinct substances in the one undivided substance or essence of God."

You are dividing God up again.

Bro... As of the Second Ecumenical Council at Constantinople, Trinity doctrine is three hypostases/one ousia. It has been since, and still remains so. Anything else is NOT Trinity doctrine. I'm not dividing God up. I just told you what Trinity doctrine is.

And I'm NOT a Trinitarian anyway.

You cannot do that when He is ONE.

I didn't do it. I stated the O/orthodox shorthand formulation.

Is a mother, wife and teacher three or One?

That's Modalism.

I suggest she is ONE person the same as God is ONE God. You haven't got it have you.

I've got it quite well. You're mixing Theology Proper formulations and analogies.

You're representing Modalism as Trinity doctrine. You're extremely confused.

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

I don't even get what you believe and for the longest time I thought you was a oneness believer... hahaha

He's a Modalist presenting his view as Trinity doctrine via analogy, etc. He's not a Trinitarian, but is claiming to be.

He's comparing God to ONE person fulfilling multiple roles, etc.

 

[PS]

GOD is omnipresent. The man-Christ prayed to the SPIRIT, and the SPIRIT also manifested as that dove during baptism. Just another manifestation.

And God makes himself known to us today through the Holy Spirit. That's nice.

I have my own way of explaining it, but it amounts to the same thing.

 

[PS]

He's a Modalist presenting his view as Trinity doctrine via analogy, etc. He's not a Trinitarian, but is claiming to be.

He's comparing God to ONE person fulfilling multiple roles, etc.

That is what Jinx is doing.

 

[jinx]

But GOD isn't a person, John 4:24 says GOD is a SPIRIT.
I just realized that PS was a guy. I really need to turn my radar on... LOL

 

[jinx]

That is what Jinx is doing.

I'm not claiming to be trinitarian, and I never said GOD was a person. Don't try and throw me under no bus, I'll take you with me LOL

 

[PneumaPsucheSoma]

That is what Jinx is doing.

No. Jinx is clearly representing herself as an Apostolic Oneness believer. She hasn't once indicated she's even remotely Trinitarian.

You're skating both sides of the semantics with attempted analogies.

Look... I don't ever assign others' beliefs, and since they're all devoid of the central truth I don't judge individual hearts based on doctrine (like many do). But you're not representing your belief as what it is; and you're misrepresenting the Trinity doctrine. We have enough Trinitarians already doing that en masse without adding Modalists trying to piggy-back and create more confusion.

You're not a Trinitarian. Please just make your position clear instead of surfing the semantics cracks with inane analogies while accusing others of "dividing God up" when they reference the O/orthodox Trinity doctrine. Thanks.

 

[homwardbound]

Are you a Modalist or a Trinitarian? Analogies are inane in regards to God. And saying man being Tripartite is in the image of a Triune God is fallacious. Why do people always do this? It's absurd.



Nope. This isn't Trinity. Trinity is three hypostases/one ousia (three "persons"/one "being"). This is all very Modalistic. You're a bit confused.

and to each their own I am free in whom I am thanks be to God the Son, God the Holy Ghost and God the Father notice even in scripture none are stated as plural, does not state God the Son's, nor God the Holy Ghost's, God God the Father's
And Christ claimed the Father and him to be one, but anyway you have the right to beleive as you believe. I stand firm in what I see because I have been set free and am elated in this. Because this is waht the Bible states is that the truth will set one free.
therefore as of awhile back I was not free and I realized the reason there had to error in my truth that I had latched onto, and today thank God that God via the power of the Holy Ghost has restructured the truth which has set me free. Now i know and am aware of that I can get error in my truth in a moments notice, and be back in bondage, and I glory in this because thne I get to learn more and stay humble. So I am therefore not ny any means putting myself above anyone else here just sharing waht I am learning in the Spirit of God

 

[homwardbound]

I dont know what homie is. He's a sweet guy though, dont agree with alot of what he says and he misunderstands a lot of my post, but he's sweet

Thanks Jinx and it is okay to me hwether one agrees or not I am not God, I am only a waterer or planter, either way God is the only one that can give the incresase

 

[homwardbound]

I dont know what homie is. He's a sweet guy though, dont agree with alot of what he says and he misunderstands a lot of my post, but he's sweet

I am none other than a Child of the iving God via the cross of his son through Christ

 

[PS]

I don't even get what you believe and for the longest time I thought you was a oneness believer... hahaha

I was giving the defination of hypotheses: that isn't what I believe. That's the other guy.

 

[jinx]

No. Jinx is clearly representing herself as an Apostolic Oneness believer. She hasn't once indicated she's even remotely Trinitarian.

Thank you so much!!!!! I do try, and I do tend to mess up when trying to explain it, so I appreciate it. Might quit while I'm ahead... LOL

 

[homwardbound]

The serial killers always are. (humor)

Taken well and yes I am I just ate up a box of cereal (humor as well)

Yet Peter was told kill and eat three times and then the Gospel was carried over to us the Gentiles if you are Gentile or not no matter though
What is the Allegory kill the flesh and be alive in the Spirit I know off subject but is it really, because by this I am in the oneness with Father
Food for thought take it or leave it no prob.

 

[PS]

But GOD isn't a person, John 4:24 says GOD is a SPIRIT.
I just realized that PS was a guy. I really need to turn my radar on... LOL

I think you will find that God is a title the same as king or queen is a title but the king can be many things but still one person and so it is with God who can be many things for example Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Do you see where I am going with this?

 

[PS]

I'm not claiming to be trinitarian, and I never said GOD was a person. Don't try and throw me under no bus, I'll take you with me LOL

I was quoting Pneuma who said that

I am comparing God to ONE person fulfilling multiple roles, etc

And I said that is what you are doing.

If I quote someone please don't think it is my belief.

 

[jinx]

Joh 4:24 GOD is a SPIRIT: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
G2316
θεός
theos
theh'-os
Of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with G3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively a magistrate; by Hebraism very: - X exceeding, God, god [-ly, -ward].



I'm pretty sure it says GOD is a SPIRIT in the bible (the diety is a SPIRIT, not the title)