OT Gospel of the Kingdom - NT Gospel of the grace of God

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Pilgrimshope

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2020
14,669
5,910
113
#41
The phrase gospel of the kingdom & references to “the kingdom of God” and “the kingdom of heaven”

Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words: [ 1,,G932, basileia ] KINGDOM
"The fundamental principle of the Kingdom is declared in the words of the Lord spoken in the midst of a company of Pharisees, "the Kingdom of God is in the midst of you," Luke 17:21, marg., that is, where the King is, there is the Kingdom.
Kingdom - Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words

OT Gospel of the Kingdom: Israel only! Preaching begins with John the Baptist 25-26AD, is retired 70AD/Temple destroyed. Will be reinstated after the catching-up of the Church (Thes 4)

NT Gospel of the GRACE of God: Begins with Paul's return from Arabia (Gal 1) 35-37AD & is still operating. Will be retired at the catching up-up of the Church (Thes 4)

A glimpse of God's promised coming Kingdom to ISRAEL:
2 Sam 7:12-13, 1 Chron 17:10-14, Isa 9:6-7,11:1-9, Dan 2:44,7:13-14, Mic 4:1-5, Zec 14:1-21, Lk 1:32-33.

All the above OT verses are coming kingdom promises God made to ISRAEL'S fathers (Rom 15:8). Necessary context in understanding the kingdom messaging. (Matt 3:2).

Matt 15:24 Messiah answered & said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
(SCRIPTURE PROCLAIMS: Jesus was sent, ONLY, to the lost sheep of the "House of Israel")

Rom 15:8 I say that Messiah was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:
(SCRIPTURE PROCLAIMS: Jesus was sent to minister to the circumcision/JEWS. To fulfil OT promises made to the ISRAEL'S fathers)

The Holy Spirit had filled/indwelt the 120 (no mention of any of them being water baptized 1st) Peter tells the Jews listening, that Jesus (whom you allowed to be killed) was Messiah & has risen (I've seen & spoke with Him) They are sorry & say what can we do? He tells them you (in unbelief) allowed Him to be killed. Repent from unbelief to BELIEF & BELIEVE! He was our long promised (to our fathers) Messiah/Redeemer/Son of God .

You can't force gentiles into Peter's message. Gentiles had NO PART in the All Jewish Temple Mt event (Eph 2:12, Acts 10:45).

Eph 2:
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
(SCRIPTURE PROCLAIMS: Pre-death & resurrection, gentiles were: ""strangers living outside covenant seals of promise"" ""having no hope"" living without God in the world)

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
(SCRIPTURE PROCLAIMS: But NOW/post death & resurrection. The blood of Christ has brought you near.)

Acts 10 records the dispensational message change. From the OT ALL JEWISH gospel of the kingdom promise. To the NT gospel of the GRACE of God message.

The NT good new/gospel of the GRACE of God (void Mosaic law adherence (Acts 15). Is open to ALL, Jew & gentile.

Acts 10, Seven years after the (Acts 2) Temple Mt Holy Spirit out pouring. Peter has a vision, it tells him to eat unclean creatures. Peter argues with the Lord 3 times & the Lord says. Peter, if I make/say it's clean, ITS CLEAN! Peter then goes with the unclean gentiles that had already been traveling to find Peter.

Acts 10:
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

(MY NOTE: These gentiles don't repent of anything, don't bring a animal sin offering, adhere to any Mosaic laws or get water baptized 1st! They hear about Jesus sin atoning death & resurrection, BELIEVE (FAITH ALONE) & Christ (who knows everyone true heart) baptizes them with His FOREVER indwelling (Jn 14:16) eternal salvation sealing (2 Cor 1:22, 5:5, Eph 4:4) Holy Spirit. Also see Eph 1:13. They HEARD, BELIEVED & RECEIVED! Christ's FOREVER indwelling Holy Spirit. They partake in water baptism AFTER the NEW BIRTH/BORN AGAIN event )

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
(MY NOTE: If any gentile had received the Holy Spirit 7 years ago at the Acts 2 Pentecost. These Jews (to include Peter) wouldn't have been astonished!)

Next the Risen Lord gives Saul/Paul the NT gospel of the GRACE of God message (Acts 20:24) and sends him to gentiles/all other nations (Acts 26:17)

TODAY'S NT gospel of the GRACE of God message is: Jesus died for your sins, was buried & rose on the 3rd day (1 Cor 15:1-4) for your justification (Rom 4:25)

Under TODAY'S NT gospel salvation is offered by the GRACE of God & accessed by FAITH (Eph 2:8, Rom 5:1-2) placed in Jesus sin atoning sacrifice.

Although salvation comes by Gods GRACE & is accessed by FAITH ALONE. There are some prerequisite understandings needed.

You must acknowledge God is, understand you've sinned (Rom 3:23) against a sovereign Creator God's/JESUS (Jn 1:3 & 10, Col 1:16 & 17, 1 Cor 8:6, Eph 3:9) & are under a death sentence (Rom 6:23) & in need of rescue.

That Jesus is the only path to a full sin pardon. You REPENT from your UNBELIEF & ask Him to come into/indwell your heart, forgive & rescue you from your sins. He has promised to accept all true confessions (1 Jn 1:9). Jesus knows every heart & is promises are absolutely faithful.

Understand with your confession, you're agreeing to marriage union commitment. You become His BETROTHED, the Holy Spirit is His promise (2 Cor 1:22, 5:5, Eph 1:3,14, 4:4) an engagement ring Earnest (Noun) - Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words

He accepts every true seeker that approaches with a contrite heart. At acceptance Jesus gives the convert GIFTS: His Holy Spirit (Acts 10:45, 11:17), A declaration of righteousness (Rom 4:5 & 5:17-18) & eternal life (Rom 6:23, Jn 5:24).
The law and the prophets (ot) were until John: ( the Baptist )

since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭16:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭

“And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him, preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭28:30-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

JaumeJ

Senior Member
Jul 2, 2011
21,465
6,722
113
#42
Concerning the Gospel. There is only one gospel, the one all received after Abraham, who was the very first to have received the Gospel.
The Good News cannot be sub-divided, it is the same for all. Again, Abraham was the first to receive the Gospel.
 

SpeakTruth101

Active member
Aug 14, 2023
874
186
43
#43
Concerning the Gospel. There is only one gospel, the one all received after Abraham, who was the very first to have received the Gospel.
The Good News cannot be sub-divided, it is the same for all. Again, Abraham was the first to receive the Gospel.
Genesis 14:18-19, “And Malkitseḏeq sovereign of Shalĕm brought out bread and wine. Now he was the priest of the Most High Ěl. And he blessed him and said, “Blessed be Aḇram of the Most High Ěl, Possessor of the heavens and earth.”

Psalms 110:1-7, יהוה said to my Master, “Sit at My right hand, Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.” יהוה sends Your mighty sceptre out of Tsiyon. Rule in the midst of Your enemies! Your people volunteer in the day of Your might, In the splendours of set-apartness! From the womb, from the morning, You have the dew of Your youth! יהוה has sworn and does not relent, “You are a priest forever According to the order of Malkitseḏeq.” יהוה at Your right hand Shall smite sovereigns in the day of His wrath. He judges among the nations, He shall fill the nations with dead bodies, He shall crush the Head over the mighty earth! He drinks of the stream by the wayside, Therefore He does lift up the head!
 

John146

Senior Member
Jan 13, 2016
17,177
3,700
113
#44
Concerning the Gospel. There is only one gospel, the one all received after Abraham, who was the very first to have received the Gospel.
The Good News cannot be sub-divided, it is the same for all. Again, Abraham was the first to receive the Gospel.
Abraham was given the message of the cross? How Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again the third day? No one was looking forward to the cross of Jesus. It was a mystery hid by God until after it occurred. Not even Jesus' closest disciples knew anything of the cross. We look back and see the types, pictures, and even prophesies, but no one had understanding until after the cross.
 

John146

Senior Member
Jan 13, 2016
17,177
3,700
113
#45
Concerning the Gospel. There is only one gospel, the one all received after Abraham, who was the very first to have received the Gospel.
The Good News cannot be sub-divided, it is the same for all. Again, Abraham was the first to receive the Gospel.
Actually, there are several gospel messages in the Bible. Gospel simply means glad tidings, good news. When Paul started preaching, only one gospel was to be preached, the message of the cross.
 

Pilgrimshope

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2020
14,669
5,910
113
#46
Actually, there are several gospel messages in the Bible. Gospel simply means glad tidings, good news. When Paul started preaching, only one gospel was to be preached, the message of the cross.
“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the gospel must first be published among all nations.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:10‬ ‭

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned. So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16, 19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, Because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; He hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, And recovering of sight to the blind, To set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭4:17-19, 21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:6-8‬ ‭

“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭13:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Without the real gospel people are going to arrive in the wrong destination one cannot be saved by rejecting the words of God spoken by Jesus in the everlasting and unchanging gospel of which there is one spoken first by the lord of all and preached also by his apostles who were his servants and disciples like Paul
 

JaumeJ

Senior Member
Jul 2, 2011
21,465
6,722
113
#47
Genesis 14:18-19, “And Malkitseḏeq sovereign of Shalĕm brought out bread and wine. Now he was the priest of the Most High Ěl. And he blessed him and said, “Blessed be Aḇram of the Most High Ěl, Possessor of the heavens and earth.”

Psalms 110:1-7, יהוה said to my Master, “Sit at My right hand, Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.” יהוה sends Your mighty sceptre out of Tsiyon. Rule in the midst of Your enemies! Your people volunteer in the day of Your might, In the splendours of set-apartness! From the womb, from the morning, You have the dew of Your youth! יהוה has sworn and does not relent, “You are a priest forever According to the order of Malkitseḏeq.” יהוה at Your right hand Shall smite sovereigns in the day of His wrath. He judges among the nations, He shall fill the nations with dead bodies, He shall crush the Head over the mighty earth! He drinks of the stream by the wayside, Therefore He does lift up the head!
Melchizedek may be translated as King of Righteousness, He is also King of Salem or Shalom, meaning King of Peace.........this is Yeshua, Jesus.
Yeshua is our High Priest with no beginning and no end. It is written in the Letters that Abraham, that is, Father of the Peoples (or of the nations), was the first man to receive the Gospel. Later, we, the gentiles were to hear the Good News from Yeshua, Himself.
I may not in all honesty to myself deny these truths about Jesus Yeshua, nor about Abraham, for our father makes not distinction between Jews and gentiles, free and slaves, , not even between men and women. Come the Kingdom we shall all be just as Yeshua. We will not be Yeshua, but just as He is,. This is beyonemy capaability to envision, but my hope is always to be made acceptable to Him, by Him. All blessings in the Lamb of God,amen.
 

JaumeJ

Senior Member
Jul 2, 2011
21,465
6,722
113
#48
Abraham was given the message of the cross? How Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again the third day? No one was looking forward to the cross of Jesus. It was a mystery hid by God until after it occurred. Not even Jesus' closest disciples knew anything of the cross. We look back and see the types, pictures, and even prophesies, but no one had understanding until after the cross.
The law and ddthe prophets point to Jesus Yeshua. The Psalms teaach of not only His crucifixion, but of the betrayal by Judas Iscariot.
A"s per the Gospel, there is but one Good News, Jesus Yeshua, and what He has given all freely from His dying for us on the Cross.

There cannot be many Gospels, there is but one as is written.
 

FlyingDove

Senior Member
Dec 27, 2017
1,275
436
83
#49
KJV Dictionary Definition REMISSION: Forgiveness; pardon; that is, the giving up of the punishment due to a crime; as the remission of sins. Matt. 26. Heb. 9.

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: & I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.
(MY NOTE: It's BLOOD, NOT WATER! That makes atonement/reparation or expiation for sin.)

Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
(MY NOTE: Without Christ's willful, sinless sacrificial, perpetually (Heb 10:10) cleansing God blood offering. There can be NO Remission/Pardon for sins.)

Heb 10: 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
(MY NOTE: Neither animal blood or water can take away/remove/remit/sins)

Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
(MY NOTE: It's FAITH placed in Christ's sinless sacrificial God blood offering. That provides Remission/Pardon for sins. NOT by any acts of works/repentance/water baptism etc)

PARSING the Preaching of John The Baptist:

Scripture proclaims, salvation is 1st to the Jew then to the gentile (Rom 1:16, 2:9 & 10)

Acts 13:24 When John had first preached before his coming the baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel.
(MY NOTE: Before His/Messiah' coming, John the Baptist is sent to preach, the ""baptism of repentance"". To ""All the People of ISRAEL"". PREPARING the way for the coming LORD. Through whom remission/pardon of sin would be realized)

John's OT baptism of repentance message preached (under the Mosaic law dispensation) is 100% to the Nation of Israel. And isn't the message for today's NT Body of Christ (not under the law) under the gospel of God's GRACE dispensation (Eph 3:2-6 Acts 20:24).

John the Baptist repeated stated purpose: PREPARE the way of the Lord (Isa 40:1-11, Ps 85:9-14, Mal 3:1, Matt 11:10)

John's BAPTISM of REPENTANCE:
Repentance: Strong's Hebrew (H7725:שׁוּב ) turn back, return, a wholehearted turning to God.

Return/turn back to God, purify/wash/clean yourself-up, outside & inside (Jews of Jesus day understood this practice) in PREPARATION of meeting your long time promised Messiah. Through whom remission/forgiveness/pardon your sins will be realized.

OT Jewish repentance rituals: rending of garments, wearing sackcloth, sitting in ashes, putting ashes on top of his head, fasting, weeping, wailing. Every Jew at John's baptism was familiar with repentance/turning back to God rituals. (See Joel 2:12-13)

Levitical law required PREPATATION/purifying/washing/instructions on many occasions: Ex 39:4, 30:19-21, 40:12; Lev 6:27, Lev 13:54, 13:58, 14:8-9, 15:16, 16:4, 16:24, 22:6.

Jacob receives PREPATATION instructions before meeting the Lord at the alter:
Gen 35:1-2 (MY NOTE: Jacob was to PREPARE/wash-up & change his cloths before meeting the Lord at the alter)

Moses receives PREPATATION instructions before meeting the Lord on the morrow.
Ex 19:10 And the Lord said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes,
(NOTE: In preparation of meeting me tomorrow, have the people purify/clean-up)

John the Baptist message was only applicable to Israel.

Johns message is void of todays core requirement. Jesus death & resurrection

At this time gentiles didn't have any relationship with God! (Eph 2:12).
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

Well-known member
Apr 1, 2023
974
596
93
#50
Actually, there are several gospel messages in the Bible. Gospel simply means glad tidings, good news. When Paul started preaching, only one gospel was to be preached, the message of the cross.
John 146.

You wrote ""only one gospel was to be preached, the message of the cross.""

Jesus was the sacrificial lamb without any blemish, perfect in every way, Jesus gave his life doing the Holy Father's will. He suffered greatly and was rejected, was put to death on the cross as in prophecy. His sacrifice gave us a way to be accepted in the kingdom of heaven and be part of GOD's HOLY family. He has paid the price for our sins and has redeemed us. It is why Jesus was preaching the coming kingdom of heaven because we now have access to the kingdom of Heaven if we believe in him and follow his teachings, the true and only gospel is the coming Kingdom of heaven and how to access the kingdom. Jesus gave the good news of the Kingdom, we must not forget his words ever.

Blessings.
 

SpeakTruth101

Active member
Aug 14, 2023
874
186
43
#51
Melchizedek may be translated as King of Righteousness, He is also King of Salem or Shalom, meaning King of Peace.........this is Yeshua, Jesus.
Yeshua is our High Priest with no beginning and no end. It is written in the Letters that Abraham, that is, Father of the Peoples (or of the nations), was the first man to receive the Gospel. Later, we, the gentiles were to hear the Good News from Yeshua, Himself.
I may not in all honesty to myself deny these truths about Jesus Yeshua, nor about Abraham, for our father makes not distinction between Jews and gentiles, free and slaves, , not even between men and women. Come the Kingdom we shall all be just as Yeshua. We will not be Yeshua, but just as He is,. This is beyonemy capaability to envision, but my hope is always to be made acceptable to Him, by Him. All blessings in the Lamb of God,amen.
Details about The King of Righteousness has always been a mystery and I thought before what you said could be true, if you are correct it makes perfect sense. it is really incredible.

Psalm 40:16, "May all those who seek You rejoice and be glad in You! May those who love Your Salvation always say: May YHWH be magnified!"
 

FlyingDove

Senior Member
Dec 27, 2017
1,275
436
83
#52
Did John the Baptist or Jesus ever say? Repent & be baptized (in his/my name) & receive the Holy Spirit? NO!

There repent message was: ISRAEL! You're headed the wrong way REPENT/turn back to the Lord your God!

Their message is completely void or the NT core requirement for salvation, Jesus death & resurrection.

Acts records the transition from the OT law covenant, Jews only. To NT administration of the gospel of the GRACE of God (Acts 20:24).

From about 37 AD until the destruction of the Temple 70AD, there were two valid good news massages being preached. One to Jews & one to gentiles (Gal 2:9). After the Temple is destroyed only Paul's message remained.

Upon Jesus arrival Israel has been under Mosaic laws for aprox 1500 years. The idea of eradicating this law doctrine overnight would be seen as out of control lawlessness.

Enter Peter' Acts 2 sermon. Read the text, He is preaching to Jews only! During a mandatory (every male over 20 years old) trip to Jerusalem, MILLIONS are in attendance for the required Pentecost feast.

Acts 2:5 JEWS out of EVERY NATION under heaven, (Acts 2:14) Ye men of JUDAEA whos from Judaea? JEWS! (Acts 2:22) Ye men of ISRAEL, (Acts 2:36) let ALL the HOUSE OF ISRAEL know, that God made that same Jesus, WHOM YE CRUCIFIED, both Lord and Christ!

The Holy Spirit had filled/indwelt the 120. Peter tells the Jews listening, that Jesus (whom you allowed to be killed) was Messiah & has risen (I've seen & spoke with Him).

They are sorry & say what can we do? He tells them you (in unbelief) allowed Him to be killed. Repent from unbelief to BELIEF & BELIEVE! That He was/is our long promised Messiah/Redeemer/Son of God.

Acts 2:38 Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Again, Peter's message is 100% to the Nation of Israel only. Water Baptism was a requirement, for the JEW (of that timeframe) to receive the the Holy Spirit. This public action/undertaking was like signing a death pact.

1st listed of the 10: Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Jewish leadership (Priesthood) had rejected Jesus. Confessing Him as Lord was see as idolatry.

Look what these law zealots did to Stephen, Paul (Acts 9:29, 13:50, 14:5, 16:22-23, 18:12, 20:23, 21:31, 22:22, 23:3, 2 Cor 11:24, 25, 26) & eventually every apostle except John.

Way to many NT believers cite Acts 2:38 as the litmus test for receiving the Holy Spirit/Eternal Life/Salvation today. Promoting water baptism as a requirement. THEIR WRONG!

You can't force gentiles into Peter's message. Gentiles had NO PART in the All Jewish Temple Mt event (Eph 2:12, Acts 10:45).

Eph 2:
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
(SCRIPTURE PROCLAIMS: Pre-death & resurrection, gentiles were: ""strangers living outside covenant seals of promise"" ""having no hope"" living without God in the world)

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
(SCRIPTURE PROCLAIMS: But NOW/post death & resurrection. The blood of Christ has brought you near.)

It's 7 years before the Acts 10 gentile Holy Spirit outpouring. The gentiles, HEAR, BELIEVE & RECEIVE! Christ' FOREVER (Jn 14:16) indwelling/SALVATION SEALING (Eph 1:13-14, 4:30, 2 Cor 1:22, 5:5, 2 Tim 1:14) Holy Spirit. And receive by FAITH ALONE, works free GIFTS:

GRACE - Given freely & received thru FAITH: Rom 3:24, 4:16, 5:1-2, 15,11:6, Eph 2:5 & 8"

ETERNAL LIFE - A gift given thru FAITH: Rom 6:23, Jn 5:24

RIGHTEOUSNESS - A gift given thru FAITH: Rom 4:5 & 5:17-18

Justification/ETERNAL LIFE = indwelling Holy Spirit < Proof you're FOREVER SAVED > (Eph 1:13-14, 4:30, 2 Cor 1:22, 5:5, 2 Tim 1:14, Jn 14:16) comes/is accessed through Faith!

Rom 3:28 Therefore """we conclude that a man is JUSTIFIED by FAITH without the deeds of the law""".

Rom 5:1 Therefore being JUSTIFIED by FAITH, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be JUSTIFIED by FAITH.

Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one """God, which shall JUSTIFY the circumcision by FAITH, and uncircumcision through FAITH.

Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that JUSTIFIETH the ungodly, his FAITH is counted for righteousness.

Gal 3:8 And the scripture, """foreseeing that God would JUSTIFY the heathen through FAITH""", preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Gal 2:16 Knowing that a """MAN is NOT JUSTIFIED by the works of the law""", but by the FAITH of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be JUSTIFIED by the FAITH of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Faith is the conduit to ALL God's blessings!

Rom 3:25 """Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through FAITH in his blood""", to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
(MY NOTE: They HEARD, they BELIEVED the good news of Jesus sin atoning death & Jesus SEALED them with His ETERNAL LIFE giving Holy Spirit) No H2O required!

Eph 2:8 For by GRACE are ye SAVED through FAITH; and that not of yourselves: it is the GIFT of God:
(MY NOTE: By GRACE are you SAVED thru FAITH.) The GIFT you receive via FAITH is the LIVING WATER/CHRIST'/ETERNAL LIFE GIVING HOLY SPIRIT!

Rom 5:2 By whom also we have ACCESS by FAITH into this GRACE wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
(MY NOTE: we access God's GRACE/JSUS CHRIST/Titus 2:11 by FAITH). No H2O required!

Acts 15:9 And put no difference between us and them, """purifying their hearts by FAITH""".
(MY NOTE: It was God's GIFT of the HOLY SPIRIT that PURIFIED their hearts!) Not H2O

Rom 4:16 Therefore it is of FAITH, that it might be by GRACE; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the FAITH of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

(SIDE NOTE: The new covenant /testament is a partial fulfilment of God's unconditional promise to Abraham (Gen15). Cut 430 yrs (Gal 3:17) before before the Mosaic law covenant cut at Sinai. Scripture (more then once) declares Moses was a faithful servant over all God's house. Having said that, at the (Rev) marriage feast (the Lord hosts & serves at) it's Abraham sitting at the head of the table)

Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by FAITH in Christ Jesus.

Acts 14:27 And when they were come, and had gathered the church together, they rehearsed all that God had done with them, and how """he had opened the door of FAITH unto the Gentiles""".
 

SpeakTruth101

Active member
Aug 14, 2023
874
186
43
#53
Did John the Baptist or Jesus ever say? Repent & be baptized (in his/my name) & receive the Holy Spirit? NO!.
Matthew 9:12-13, “And יהושע hearing this, said to them, “Those who are strong have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. But go and learn what this means, ‘I desire compassion and not offering.’ (Hos 6:6) For I did not come to call the righteous to repentance, but sinners.”

Luke 24:45-47,Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and said to them, “Thus it has been written, and so it was necessary for the Messiah to suffer and to rise again from the dead the third day, and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be proclaimed in His Name to all nations, beginning at Yerushalayim.

Matthew 28:18-20, “And יהושע came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.“Therefore, go and make taught ones of all the nations, immersing them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Set-apart Spirit, teaching them to guard all that I have commanded you. And see, I am with you always, until the end of the age.” Amĕn.”
 

FlyingDove

Senior Member
Dec 27, 2017
1,275
436
83
#54
The NT good new/gospel of the GRACE of God (void Mosaic law adherence (Acts 15). Is open to ALL, Jew & gentile.

Acts 10, Seven years after the (Acts 2) Temple Mt Holy Spirit out pouring. Peter has a vision, it tells him to eat unclean creatures. Peter argues with the Lord 3 times & the Lord says. Peter, if I make/say it's clean, ITS CLEAN! Peter then goes with the unclean gentiles that had already been traveling to find Peter.

Acts 10:
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

(MY NOTE: These gentiles don't repent of anything, don't bring a animal sin offering, adhere to any Mosaic laws or get water baptized 1st! They hear about Jesus sin atoning death & resurrection, BELIEVE (FAITH ALONE) & Christ (who knows everyone true heart) baptizes them with His FOREVER indwelling (Jn 14:16) eternal salvation sealing (2 Cor 1:22, 5:5, Eph 4:4) Holy Spirit. Also see Eph 1:13. They HEARD, BELIEVED & RECEIVED! Christ's FOREVER indwelling Holy Spirit. They partake in water baptism AFTER the NEW BIRTH/BORN AGAIN event )

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
(MY NOTE: If any gentile had received the Holy Spirit 7 years ago at the Acts 2 Pentecost. These Jews (to include Peter) wouldn't have been astonished!)

Next the Risen Lord gives Saul/Paul the NT gospel of the GRACE of God message (Acts 20:24) and sends him to gentiles/all other nations (Acts 26:17)

TODAY'S NT gospel of the GRACE of God message is: Jesus died for your sins, was buried & rose on the 3rd day (1 Cor 15:1-4) for your JUSTIFICATION (Rom 4:25)

Vine's dictionary has 15 verifiable Greek to English translators. Experts in Greek nouns & their grammatical genders: masculine, feminine, neuter & how their used in a number, singular, dual, or plural. And all respects of Greek from verbs to mood, voice, aspect, tense, number, and person.

Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words[ B-1,Verb,G1344, dikaioo ] - Justification, Justifier, Justify

PARSING VINE'S Greek word dikaioo V, G1344:
Jesus sin atoning death is the complete required fulfillment of the law of God. Proved to be accepted by His resurrection. And now the Father has made the Son/JUSTIFIER (Rom 3:26). Of ALL, that seek redemption thru FAITH placed in His FINISHED sin atoning work.

Justification is a legal, formal pronouncement by God/JUDGE. It renders a FULL sin PARDON, NEVER to be adjudicated AGAIN. Christ received sins judgment, paying the sentence for the crime/SIN.

PAY ATTENTION HERE! In Romans 3:24 (cited in the OP) Being justified is in the """present continuous tense""" """indicating the constant process of justification/salvation! Of those who believe & have been/are (right now) JUSTIFIED!

In Romans 5:1, being justified, """is in the aorist, or point, tense, indicating the definite time at which each person, upon the exercise of faith, was justified/saved. DONE DEAL/FINISHED TRANSACTION!

In Romans 8:1, Justification, ""is presented as NO condemnation/judgment due." That "justification" is in view here is confirmed by the preceding chapters and by verse Romans 3:34. In Romans 3:26, the word rendered JUSTIFIER """is the PRESENT PARTICIPLE of the verb""". DONE DEAL/FINISHED TRANSACTION!
 

John146

Senior Member
Jan 13, 2016
17,177
3,700
113
#55
“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the gospel must first be published among all nations.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:10‬ ‭

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned. So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16, 19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, Because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; He hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, And recovering of sight to the blind, To set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭4:17-19, 21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:6-8‬ ‭

“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭13:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Without the real gospel people are going to arrive in the wrong destination one cannot be saved by rejecting the words of God spoken by Jesus in the everlasting and unchanging gospel of which there is one spoken first by the lord of all and preached also by his apostles who were his servants and disciples like Paul
I see nothing about the death, burial, and resurrection for sins. That is the gospel message unto salvation. The truth of the cross was not revealed unto after it occurred.
 

John146

Senior Member
Jan 13, 2016
17,177
3,700
113
#56
The law and ddthe prophets point to Jesus Yeshua. The Psalms teaach of not only His crucifixion, but of the betrayal by Judas Iscariot.
A"s per the Gospel, there is but one Good News, Jesus Yeshua, and what He has given all freely from His dying for us on the Cross.

There cannot be many Gospels, there is but one as is written.
I agree, only as we look back with the knowledge we have after the cross.
 

John146

Senior Member
Jan 13, 2016
17,177
3,700
113
#57
John 146.

You wrote ""only one gospel was to be preached, the message of the cross.""

Jesus was the sacrificial lamb without any blemish, perfect in every way, Jesus gave his life doing the Holy Father's will. He suffered greatly and was rejected, was put to death on the cross as in prophecy. His sacrifice gave us a way to be accepted in the kingdom of heaven and be part of GOD's HOLY family. He has paid the price for our sins and has redeemed us. It is why Jesus was preaching the coming kingdom of heaven because we now have access to the kingdom of Heaven if we believe in him and follow his teachings, the true and only gospel is the coming Kingdom of heaven and how to access the kingdom. Jesus gave the good news of the Kingdom, we must not forget his words ever.

Blessings.
The kingdom of heaven is the earthly, physical kingdom that will be restored at Christ's second return. He will literally rule from the throne of David in Jerusalem.
 
E

evyaniy

Guest
#58
The law and ddthe prophets point to Jesus Yeshua. The Psalms teaach of not only His crucifixion, but of the betrayal by Judas Iscariot.
A"s per the Gospel, there is but one Good News, Jesus Yeshua, and what He has given all freely from His dying for us on the Cross.

There cannot be many Gospels, there is but one as is written.
Psalm 30 is His resurrection prayer of praise to His Father. He danced for joy after being raised. verse 11

Psalm 30

A Psalm. A Song for the Dedication of the Temple. By David.

(Son to Father after His resurrection)

30:1 I will extol You, YHVH, for You have raised Me up,
and have not made My foes to rejoice over Me.
30:2 YHVH My 'Elohiym, I cried to You,
and You have healed Me.
30:3 YHVH, You have brought up My soul from Sheol.
You have kept Me alive,
that I should not go down to the pit.
30:4 Sing praise to YHVH, you faithful of His.
Give thanks to His Holy Name.
30:5 For His anger is but for a moment.
In His favor is life.
Weeping may stay for the night,
but joy comes in the morning.
30:6 As for Me, I said in My prosperity,
“I shall never be moved.”
30:7 You, YHVH, when You favored Me,
made My mountain stand strong;
but when You hid Your face, I was troubled.
30:8 I cried to You, YHVH.
To YHVH I made supplication:

(Son quotes His prayer to Father to raise Him up)

30:9 “What profit is there in My destruction,
if I go down to the pit?
Shall the dust praise You?
Shall it declare Your truth?
30:10 Hear, YHVH, and have mercy on Me.
YHVH, be My Helper.”

(Son to Father after raising Him up)

30:11 You have turned My mourning into dancing for Me.
You have removed My sackcloth,
and clothed Me with gladness,
30:12 To the end that My heart may sing praise to You,
and not be silent.
YHVH My 'Elohiym, I will give thanks to You forever!
 

FlyingDove

Senior Member
Dec 27, 2017
1,275
436
83
#59
The Mosaic law covenant required works in order to access God's blessings (Deut 28:1-14) Curses were levied for non-compliance (Deut 28:15-68) This covenant was cut with the blood of animals (Heb 9:18-20).

A sinless Jesus flawlessly/faithfully kept Mosaic laws, preached, taught & ultimately fulfilled all the laws requirements. Most specifically it's wage for sin/DEATH. His mission was ONLY to ISRAEL (Matt 15:24), JEWS ONLY (Rom 15:8 ). To redeem those (ISRAEL) that were under the Laws (Gal 4:4-5) penalty for sin/DEATH (Rom 6:23 )

Jesus/God willingly (Matt 26:53) becomes sin (2 Cor 5:21) & a curse (Gal 3:13-14) offering Himself sins atonement, paying for Adam's fall (Rom 5:18-21).

Jesus sacrificial death retires the Mosaic law covenant. (Matt 27:51)

Jesus cuts the new BETTER sin management covenant with: His sinless, Once for All Time (Hed 9:28, 10:10), perpetually cleansing God Blood & places it in the Heavenly tabernacle, in the presents of the Father (Heb 9:24).
Read from the old to new here: https://www.sermoncentral.com/bible/amplified-bible-amp/hebrews-9?passage=Hebrews+9

The OP & well as this post cite the scripture as to whom (while alive) Jesus was sent & whom He was preaching to. The same people that live in the red print & promote a law & grace covenant mixture. Are free to believe & promote whatever they choose.

It's interesting these same people that try to place others/everyone under a law covenant. Don't keep the red print words they aimlessly post.

They haven't sold everything they own, (why not) Jesus said to (Matt 19:21). They don't keep the Sabbath as required by Mosaic law. Not one person reading this keeps the Sabbath as required by Mosaic law. Claim you do & I'll show you, YOU DON'T (break one you break um all (Ja 2:10)

BTW, red print dwellers, ALL scripture is God breathed (2 Tim 3:16).

The more you focus on sin, the more the law will magnify & condemn you & everyone you continue trying to put under it.

The Law DAMANDS! (Deut 28)

Love GIVES: God so LOVED, He GAVE His Son (Jn 3:16)

Grace SUPPLIES:
Tit 2:11 For the [remarkable, undeserved] grace of God that [a]brings salvation has appeared to all men.
(MY NOTE: Christ in the GRACE of God & FAITH placed in His finished sacrificial work accesses salvation)

Phil 4:19 And my God will liberally supply (fill until full) your every need according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus
(MY NOTE: He liberally supplies)

Eph 3:
20 Now to Him who is able to [carry out His purpose and] do superabundantly more than all that we dare ask or think [infinitely beyond our greatest prayers, hopes, or dreams], according to His power that is at work within us,
(MY NOTE: His supply is limitless!)

2 Cor 9:8 And God is able to make all grace [every favor and earthly blessing] come in abundance to you, so that you may always [under all circumstances, regardless of the need] have complete sufficiency in everything [being completely self-sufficient in Him], and have an abundance for every good work and act of charity.
(MY NOTE: His supply is abundant in all circumstances, regardless of the need).

Faith ACCESSES/TAKES! Rom 5:1-2, Eph 2:8, Heb 11:2,3,4,5,7,8,11, 23,27,29,30,31,33,

The Risen (RED PRINT) Lord Jesus (Acts 26:15-18), gives Paul by direct revelation (Gal 1:12). Christ's gospel of God's GRACE (Acts 20:24)

GRACE - A Gift received thru FAITH: Rom 3:24, 4:16, 5:1-2, 15, 11:6, Eph 2:5 & 8. A GIFT is given not worked for/earned!

Grace isn't a license to sin. It's the POWER of God to overcome sin!
Rom 1:
16 I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation [from His wrath and punishment] to everyone who believes [in Christ as Savior], to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

17 For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed, both springing from faith and leading to faith [disclosed in a way that awakens more faith]. As it is written and forever remains written, “THE JUST and UPRIGHT SHALL LIVE BY FAITH.”

Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Eph 2:
8 For it is by grace [God’s remarkable compassion and favor drawing you to Christ] that you HAVE BEEN SAVED [actually delivered from judgment and given eternal life] through FAITH. And this [salvation] is not of yourselves [not through your own effort], but it is the [undeserved, gracious] gift of God;
https://www.sermoncentral.com/bible/amplified-bible-amp/ephesians-2?passage=Ephesians+2
(MY NOTE: Salvation is accessed by GRACE thru FAITH. (NO H2O NEEDED!)

NT Gospel of Jesus Christ:

1 Cor 15:
1 Now brothers and sisters, let me remind you [once again] of the good news [of salvation] which I preached to you, which you welcomed and accepted and on which you stand [by faith].

2 By this faith you are saved [reborn from above—spiritually transformed, renewed, and set apart for His purpose], if you hold firmly to the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain [just superficially and without complete commitment].

3 For I passed on to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold],

4 and that He was buried, and that He was [bodily] raised on the third day according to [that which] the Scriptures [foretold],
https://www.sermoncentral.com/bible/amplified-bible-amp/1-corinthians-15?passage=1+Corinthians+15

PARSING:
Vs 1, ""The good news of SALVATION"" preached to you, ""which you accepted by FAITH"". (NO H2O NEEDED!)

Vs 2, You were SAVED by FAITH & reborn from above, spiritually transformed, renewed & set apart for His purpose. (NO H2O NEEDED!)

Vs 3, The most ""important"" SALVATION information needed is: (Vs 3) Christ died for our sins (Vs 4) was buried & He was raised on the 3rd day.

Synopsis: The gospel/good news whereby you are SAVED by FAITH placed in: Christ' sin atoning sacrifice/offering/paymend: He died/Shedding His sinless perpetually cleansing (Heb 10:14) God blood, was buried & rose on the 3rd day. (Father receipt, sins required payment received & accepted. (NO H2O NEEDED!)

The notion what Jesus endured, He became a curse (Gal 3:13) He became sin (2 Cor 5:21) taking ALL SINS DUE/REQUIRED JUDGMENT, His face was beaten beyond recognition (Isa 52:14) All His back flesh removed by cata 9 tails, publicly striped nude, nailed to a cross etc.

And somehow this wasn't quite enough. And He needs your/our Cain life self-works. Implemented to complete a sin redemption work that He proclaimed IS FINISHED (Jn 19:30)....
 

Ted01

Well-known member
May 14, 2022
1,055
448
83
#60
I believe that Scripture is clear that there is only one Gospel message, the Kingdom of God.

It was Jesus' gospel; it was the gospel that the disciples carried forward. That includes Paul, who (as far as I'm aware) only used the term "gospel of Grace" one time... but then follows it up by calling it the gospel of the Kingdom of God. (sometimes translated other ways)

Acts 20:24-25 (DRB)
24 But I fear none of these things, neither do I count my life more precious than myself, so that I may consummate my course and the ministry of the word which I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
25 And now behold, I know that all you, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.

Yet, people have built a whole religion around it... truly sad. They insist that every time that Paul refers to "his gospel", that he is referring to a different gospel. But that just isn't so, imho, because in the above Scripture, Paul uses them synonymously.

Paul also stated something about "other" gospels...

Gal. 1:6-9 (ESV)

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.