Our body

[Gandalf]

The story of Adam and Eve is not literally true, it was meant to be allegorical, Adam and Eve representing all men and women. God created the physical universe (heaven and earth, i.e. everything that -is-) for a purpose, as part of a big complicated plan of some kind. Of course if that's true, the plan must be so complicated that we would have no chance of understanding it. Like an individual yeast critter being grown to make bread--the individual yeasties have no understanding of what they're doing, they're just floating in dough, eating sugar, burping out CO2. Life is good for them! Until we turn the oven on.

The physical world, and our bodies, were designed to be imperfect, to be temporary. In fact the whole idea of time itself is part of the physical world. God and the angels are in -eternity-, where all times are the same time. We are trapped in time, we have to live every second as it comes, and then go on to the next second. It's just part of life in the physical world.

So the idea is that we each get one life here, and then we go on to The Next Thing (though, understandably, we're a little fuzzy on what that is, exactly). We are like 'prototypes' of angels. We have problems and pains and sorrows that the angels don't have, but OTOH we have great pleasures too. Angels can't enjoy the taste of chocolate melting on their tongue, or being kissed, or riding a motorcycle, or sinking into a hot bath. Somehow a few decades here in the physical world prepares us for life in eternity.

So to ask why are here, I mean why -here-, it's like one kindergartner turning to another and saying 'Why are we -here-?' And the other says 'Well this is just the beginning. Someday you're going to graduate from college and be a famous architect! But first you have to learn your colors.'

Hopefully you will admit that this is your opinion, because it is definitely not Biblical to say that Adam and Eve was not literal…

 

[Cycel]

I would like to know your thoughts on....

1. Why were we given a body and or it's purpose/need
2. Why do you think God wanted us to be in a body and not just spirit form

For starters there would be no sexual reproduction without a body. The universe would be without life. There would be no reason for stars, planets and so on to exist, for without these things life cannot exist.

If you believe in God then you must ask why a universe full of life is better than a universe without life from the perceptive of a supreme deity. What need does such a being have of human life? In the minds of the ancients the purpose of worshippers was to provide sustenance for the god in the form of animal sacrifice. Ancient believers thought even gods had physical need of food. Note that when Noah lit his sacrificial fire Yahweh was drawn to it.

Then Noah built an altar to the Lord.... When the Lord smelt the soothing odour... (Genesis 8:20-21)

Then burn the entire ram on the altar. It is a burnt offering to the LORD, a pleasing aroma, a food offering presented to the LORD. (Exodus 29:18)

... to stand in my sanctuary and defile my house when you present my food to me, both fat and blood... (Ezekiel 44:7)

and you present to the LORD food offerings from the herd or the flock, as an aroma pleasing to the LORD... (Numbers 15:3)

3. Why are we given a new body for on the newly created earth

Because human vanity requires that we again posses the perfect bodies of youth. If the bodies we possessed near the end of life were returned to us we would not find that appealing.

 

[Gandalf]

For starters there would be no sexual reproduction without a body. The universe would be without life. There would be no reason for stars, planets and so on to exist, for without these things life cannot exist.

Didn’t God told Adam to be fruitful and multiply before they sinned? So there always was reproduction. If it was sexual is an argument for another day

 

[4enlightment]

I would like to know your thoughts on....

1. Why were we given a body and or it's purpose/need
2. Why do you think God wanted us to be in a body and not just spirit form
3. Why are we given a new body for on the newly created earth

I'm assuming that since all of the rest of the Dimensions (Heavens) are unseen, God wanted to see what will happens if He created a dimension that is totally dependent on the physical aspect. Like for love as an example; the spiritual realm is felt from with in, an unseen force, but the natural need to see it and touch it; but we can't see or touch love because it is of a spiritual nature, but we can see the after effect of what it produces. I guess God love this new creation of His; it probably does amuses Him to see all the things that we'd produced to be correspond to His nature.

 

[Brother_Don]

those seem like questions for God, and i'm not going to try to answer for God. But i kinda think of it as basic training. God has a plan, is really the only answer, i'm sure of.

 

[Ella85]

those seem like questions for God, and i'm not going to try to answer for God. But i kinda think of it as basic training. God has a plan, is really the only answer, i'm sure of.

MidniteWelder gave a good explanation...
I think it's very important to recognise why God gave us a body/flesh.

The study of the anatomy and physiology is something worth learning, also a deeper understanding of touch, taste, smell, hear.

We go through our every day lives forgetting about the simple things we are able to experience.
Also, we underestimate how the flesh can influence our decision making and life choices.

 

[jdbear]

I would like to know your thoughts on....

1. Why were we given a body and or it's purpose/need
2. Why do you think God wanted us to be in a body and not just spirit form

The answers to these questions are unknown.

"Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labour to seek*it*out, yet he shall not find*it; yea further; though a wise*man*think to know*it, yet shall he not be able to find*it." Ecc.8:17

Originally posted by Ella
3. Why are we given a new body for on the newly created earth

Because corruption cannot inherit the Kingdom:

"Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption." 1Cor.15:50

 

[crossnote]

I would like to know your thoughts on....

1. Why were we given a body and or it's purpose/need
2. Why do you think God wanted us to be in a body and not just spirit form
3. Why are we given a new body for on the newly created earth

1. We were first a body of dust that was given a spirit. (Gen 2:7) Why were we given a spirit unlike animals?
2. Man is a living soul =body+spirit. (Gen 2:7)
3. Corruption cannot inherit incorruption. (1Cor 15:50)

 

[Sec]

I would like to know your thoughts on....

1. Why were we given a body and or it's purpose/need
2. Why do you think God wanted us to be in a body and not just spirit form
3. Why are we given a new body for on the newly created earth

Our soul, our mind, cannot function without a physical body to support it, it needs electricity to function, our physical body, eats fuel, which it converts into energy, which supplies the minor amount of electricity our soul needs to function. we do NOT have a spirit, the only spirit is the holy spirit, God uses it to transport souls from one physical body to another during death and resurrection, but the physical body is necessary to provide "input" and nourishment for the soul. No physical bodies, no souls.
that new earth, will still be this same planet. Isaiah 45:17 "world without end" the "end times' always refers to an "end of an age" such as when the O.T. times ended with Jesus' resurrection. the only future "end time" will be when everybody who can be, is remade into spiritual images of Jesus and Jesus rules the world, because everyone will be Jesus, spiritually.

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Gary Sechler
With knowledge on loan from God

 

[Zmouth]

And no doubt His thoughts are higher than ours. Still this does not answer the op, read the questions again.
Talking about the BODY here...the FLESH

Why did He choose to create us in FLESH?

So we could see His Beauty, we are his eyes, his fingers his toes, his ears.

Either that or He was looking for some cheap gardeners.

 

[Cycel]

For starters there would be no sexual reproduction without a body. The universe would be without life. There would be no reason for stars, planets and so on to exist, for without these things life cannot exist.

Didn’t God told Adam to be fruitful and multiply before they sinned? So there always was reproduction. If it was sexual is an argument for another day

The majority of plants also reproduce sexually. For many higher life forms that is the only way procreation occurs. I am only talking about sex in the biological sense. I am not talking about the association of sex with sin, though that may not be what you mean to imply.

Was it Adam and Eve who received the directive to be fruitful? Certainly Noah is given the instruction in Genesis 9:1. Basically though I am agreeing with you. I think Ella is wondering why, if God plans to make us into spirits in the end, then why not just start existence as spirits? Why have bodies at all?

One thing I know is that without humans existing in physical form there would be no history of the Jews – no Bible.

 

[4enlightment]

The majority of plants also reproduce sexually. For many higher life forms that is the only way procreation occurs. I am only talking about sex in the biological sense. I am not talking about the association of sex with sin, though that may not be what you mean to imply.

Was it Adam and Eve who received the directive to be fruitful? Certainly Noah is given the instruction in Genesis 9:1. Basically though I am agreeing with you. I think Ella is wondering why, if God plans to make us into spirits in the end, then why not just start existence as spirits? Why have bodies at all?

One thing I know is that without humans existing in physical form there would be no history of the Jews – no Bible.

Because God isn't going to get rid of the physical form, but He is going to combine it with the spiritual abilities so that it doesn't has to rely only on physical matter to live. So basically we are not going to rely on bread alone. I think Jesus has demonstrated what our new bodies will be capable of.

 

[Ella85]

I think Ella is wondering why, if God plans to make us into spirits in the end, then why not just start existence as spirits? Why have bodies at all?

Exactly......

I agree that we are made in God's image, and for His glory.

But remember how much God loves us that He has given us a body for us to ENJOY.

He could have quite easily made us from any substance or material.


Don't get me wrong - the spirit is the core, I think of our bodies as an external/physical side of what is on the inside...

Think of it this way...
If we couldn't taste, touch, hear, smell, see ......................how would that affect the spirit???