Pagan Symbols and Christianity
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Resorting to pie throwing as per usual. Keeping up your lying and false accusations. Showing your true wicked colors and unrepentant, contentious attitude, which only goes to your further hardening. You are only out to quarrel. "Only by pride cometh contention". However, I don't expect you to get anything straight, as you queer just about everything up. No wonder seeing what buddies you "like" here. Says everything. Now, I won't waste anymore breath on replying to your goofy posts. No more pearls for you. Welcome to my iggy bin.
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Tribesman this is about being a stumbling block.
The meat was the leftover of what was cut off from the meat
offered to idols not meat that was offered, that was gone in the sacrifice.
So really all it was was meat.
There is also even more to it than that. But...
This is exactly what i was talking about why
ill never be a calvinist
The meat was the leftover of what was cut off from the meat
offered to idols not meat that was offered, that was gone in the sacrifice.
So really all it was was meat.
There is also even more to it than that. But...
This is exactly what i was talking about why
ill never be a calvinist
Tribesman this is about being a stumbling block.
The meat was the leftover of what was cut off from the meat
offered to idols not meat that was offered, that was gone in the sacrifice.
So really all it was was meat.
There is also even more to it than that. But...
The meat was the leftover of what was cut off from the meat
offered to idols not meat that was offered, that was gone in the sacrifice.
So really all it was was meat.
There is also even more to it than that. But...
How could anyone do that. It went up in flames.
Your not seeing the point of the text and your out to
breath fire on folks. Honestly you need a nap
Your not seeing the point of the text and your out to
breath fire on folks. Honestly you need a nap
I just see a difference between principle and intent. Where both matters.
The consequences of insinuating that Paul would have taught that eating meat sacrificed to idols is "OK" are seldom thought about among those who claim so.
And to say that avoiding eating such meat was ONLY for the sake of not offending believing jews or the weak in faith is to go to quite great a length. Let not anachronisms read in something in Paul's world that wasn't there.
Consideration was made to avoid purchasing such meat. The "shambles" spoken of in 1Cor.10:25 sold such meat that was not sacrificed to idols. Other shelters were to be avoided.
Acts is talking about the Gentile believers and why they should abstain. It was to keep peace within the church. The apostles were looking out for the new converts and realized something needed to be done so they could maintain faithfulness. This ruling was necessary for that time. The Pharisees were being their normal selves and creating issue and felt the Gentiles should keep the law, to be part of the covenant of Israel. This was done so the Gentiles could be more accepted.
This was nothing more than guideline for the Gentiles so they would be accepted in to fellowship.
Revelation is also not saying Christians were not allowed to eat meat sacrificed to idols.
Under the Roman persecution, Christians were denied the right to buy food in the empire unless they offered worship to the emperors. Food was hard to come by for the faithful yet there was plenty to be had if they wanted to participate in the great public feasts where the meat of the animals who had been sacrificed to pagan gods was being served to the public. Hunger is a powerful incentive and many Christians gave in and participated in these public feasts.
If the Christians accept the food they were then falling back to pagan ways. This did not forbid them to eat it, but due to Roman law if they did purchase/eat food then they were required to resort to ungodly worship. So, Christians abstained.
You cannot argue abstaining while leaving Pauls address to Corinth out. He clearly says we can eat, but do not cause another to stumble.
This does not mean that I cannot eat a Cadbury Creme egg right now in the privacy of my own home, but when you do something in the presence of another weak in faith you need to consider them first.
Paul does also states that it is best not to ask where the food came from. If you have no knowledge that it was a sacrifice then your conscience is not affected. Afterall, food cannot hurt you spiritually.
The moral of this story is as Christians we do have certain freedoms, but just because we have the freedom to do something doesnt give us the right to abuse it or throw it in someone's face.
This was nothing more than guideline for the Gentiles so they would be accepted in to fellowship.
Revelation is also not saying Christians were not allowed to eat meat sacrificed to idols.
Under the Roman persecution, Christians were denied the right to buy food in the empire unless they offered worship to the emperors. Food was hard to come by for the faithful yet there was plenty to be had if they wanted to participate in the great public feasts where the meat of the animals who had been sacrificed to pagan gods was being served to the public. Hunger is a powerful incentive and many Christians gave in and participated in these public feasts.
If the Christians accept the food they were then falling back to pagan ways. This did not forbid them to eat it, but due to Roman law if they did purchase/eat food then they were required to resort to ungodly worship. So, Christians abstained.
You cannot argue abstaining while leaving Pauls address to Corinth out. He clearly says we can eat, but do not cause another to stumble.
This does not mean that I cannot eat a Cadbury Creme egg right now in the privacy of my own home, but when you do something in the presence of another weak in faith you need to consider them first.
Paul does also states that it is best not to ask where the food came from. If you have no knowledge that it was a sacrifice then your conscience is not affected. Afterall, food cannot hurt you spiritually.
The moral of this story is as Christians we do have certain freedoms, but just because we have the freedom to do something doesnt give us the right to abuse it or throw it in someone's face.
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My feelings? youve been a tyrant all day Tribesman.
Maybe teach with some patience. Why do you spose they were not
to question where the meat came from in the shambles? Your wrong
about it not being the same meat talked about in chapter 8.
Otherwise why for conscience sake?
1 Cor 8 Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that “We all possess knowledge.” But knowledge puffs up while love builds up. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know.[SUP]3 [/SUP]But whoever loves God is known by God.[SUP][a][/SUP][SUP]4 [/SUP]So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.” [SUP]5 [/SUP]For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), [SUP]6 [/SUP]yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But not everyone possesses this knowledge. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat sacrificial food they think of it as having been sacrificed to a god, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled.
Maybe teach with some patience. Why do you spose they were not
to question where the meat came from in the shambles? Your wrong
about it not being the same meat talked about in chapter 8.
Otherwise why for conscience sake?
1 Cor 8 Now about food sacrificed to idols: We know that “We all possess knowledge.” But knowledge puffs up while love builds up. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Those who think they know something do not yet know as they ought to know.[SUP]3 [/SUP]But whoever loves God is known by God.[SUP][a][/SUP][SUP]4 [/SUP]So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.” [SUP]5 [/SUP]For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), [SUP]6 [/SUP]yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But not everyone possesses this knowledge. Some people are still so accustomed to idols that when they eat sacrificial food they think of it as having been sacrificed to a god, and since their conscience is weak, it is defiled.
hahaha cookie!
that's funny.
ya...i know people that actually think that way!
ehehehe.
demons in soap and stuff < call the Ivory Co Exorcist!
....like...oka-a-a-a-ay.....put down the back scrubber, nice and easy.
back up, keep your hands where i can see 'em.
and candles, ya - gotta be careful they're not used for certain purposes, like when the power goes out and stuff.
k
ah....
love zone.
that's funny.
ya...i know people that actually think that way!
ehehehe.
demons in soap and stuff < call the Ivory Co Exorcist!
....like...oka-a-a-a-ay.....put down the back scrubber, nice and easy.
back up, keep your hands where i can see 'em.
and candles, ya - gotta be careful they're not used for certain purposes, like when the power goes out and stuff.
k
ah....
love zone.
I don't know what has caused you to tick. You used to be one of the kindest, and most gentle people on here. Even when you weren't in agreement you were still respectful.
I have seen you make very harsh comments to many people on here lately. I don't know if you are having issues or what, but please refrain from talking down to me. You are more than welcome to disagree, but to act in such a hostile manner is uncalled for.
If posts on this site persuades you to act in a harsh manner and insult fellow Christians then it may be a good idea to take a break. That's what I did for a few months. My attitude was bad, and I was the only one responsible for it. So I left for a while.
I just recently returned for the fact I needed encouragement. Not that my problems are relevant to the topic, but I came back due to some serious problems I am having beyond my control that I would not wish on anyone. I thought Christian fellowship would help. I did not come back to be insulted by someone because they don't agree with things I say.
If a person is in error there are ways to approach them in a loving and kind way. I sometimes forget, and get an attitude, but I also go a a person and apologize If I am out of line.
In saying that if you cannot be a decent, respectable, loving human then please refrain from responding to me or my posts. The last thing I need right now is harsh criticism, and hateful talk from someone who says they're a Christian.
I have seen you make very harsh comments to many people on here lately. I don't know if you are having issues or what, but please refrain from talking down to me. You are more than welcome to disagree, but to act in such a hostile manner is uncalled for.
If posts on this site persuades you to act in a harsh manner and insult fellow Christians then it may be a good idea to take a break. That's what I did for a few months. My attitude was bad, and I was the only one responsible for it. So I left for a while.
I just recently returned for the fact I needed encouragement. Not that my problems are relevant to the topic, but I came back due to some serious problems I am having beyond my control that I would not wish on anyone. I thought Christian fellowship would help. I did not come back to be insulted by someone because they don't agree with things I say.
If a person is in error there are ways to approach them in a loving and kind way. I sometimes forget, and get an attitude, but I also go a a person and apologize If I am out of line.
In saying that if you cannot be a decent, respectable, loving human then please refrain from responding to me or my posts. The last thing I need right now is harsh criticism, and hateful talk from someone who says they're a Christian.