PAGANIZATION OF THE CHURCH....Easter vs Resurrection Sunday

[prove-all]

8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after (the tradition of men,)

after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

I could be bold to saying paul was teaching gentile and jews ,
to keep Gods holy convocations, and he told new converts,

to not listen to no man about Sabbath(s), but the body of Christ, the rock not peter.


easter sunrise is (a tradation of man), also sunrise service is not biblical.(still dark)

the 7th day to the first day of week that rome changed, from Gods Sabbath to sunday,

started and decreed and made it law in the land of rome(the world acceptence now and follows)


-deciples keep it but rome changed it

The practice had been followed by Polycarp, who was a disciple of John the Apostle and bishop of Smyrna (c. 69 – c. 155) - one of the seven churches of Asia, and by Melito of Sardis(d. c. 180).[SUP][5][/SUP] Irenaeus says that Polycarp visited Rome when Anicetus was its bishop (c. 153–68), and among the topics discussed was this divergence of custom, with Rome instituting the festival of Easter in place of the Pasch. Irenaeus noted


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[prove-all]

so you only remove sin from your heart and body 'once a year'?

because that would explain a lot...

if you knew anything about ULB bread you will see it was a 7 days long holy convocation .

to God 7 = what?


Isreal acepted the passover,kept the feast and went out from egypt(pictured comming out of sin)

and some looked back and wanted to return to slavery, they where not to stop there, but to go forward.


removing sin is a life long tests and trials and learning, not just one day a year.

but Jesus, because what he did for us, he told us to keep the feast, not mans tradations or or fathers.


p.s. maybe reading the old testement, everywhere over and over

Gods anger over there fathers tradations,

and not his Sabbaths and ways, to there down fall, should be an example for us.

 

[prove-all]

in the church i go to the seats all face north...

but i am long past expecting people like you to do much other than -make stuff up-

well every church i have ever been to has them pews facing east.

i have also read about it somewhere , but can not find proff for you yet.


but if there church design come from normal blue prints, design came from rome.

i would ask then anyone reading this, next time in church, see what direction you face.

than come back and be honest, no lying we know better, and report what you see.

 

[Jeff_56]

re why is it important >> (seeking the truth) >>


maybe to line up <more> accurately with God's True Word and not with pagan worship of demons ??

 

[oldthennew]

oh,

Dear Father, help us to discern between the wolves hiding in sheep's clothing,
boggling the minds of Your Truth with worldly desires.

 

[prove-all]

ezek 8

15Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again,
and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.


16And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and,

behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord,

between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men,

with their backs toward the temple of the Lord,

and their faces toward the east;

and they worshipped the sun toward the east.



God will start the judgement with his priests, and more severe

 

[kennethcadwell]

Originally Posted by kennethcadwell

But what I do not agree with is that they compared it to and translated it from other English versions.

PAY ATTENTION TO THE BOLDED KENNETH AND READ.... and with the former translations diligently compared and revised....the translators were permitted to consult other translations from a pre-approved list

James' instructions included several requirements that kept the new translation familiar to its listeners and readers. The text of the Bishops' Bible would serve as the primary guide for the translators, and the familiar proper names of the biblical characters would all be retained. If the Bishops' Bible was deemed problematic in any situation, the translators were permitted to consult other translations from a pre-approved list: the Tyndale Bible, the Coverdale Bible, Matthew's Bible, the Great Bible, and the Geneva Bible. In addition, later scholars have detected an influence on the Authorized Version from the translations of Taverner's Bible and the New Testament of the Douay–Rheims Bible.[SUP][43][/SUP] It is for this reason that the flyleaf of most printings of the Authorized Version observes that the text had been "translated out of the original tongues, and with the former translations diligently compared and revised, by His Majesty's special commandment

Yes they consulted with those other translations to see how they compared, but the translation was not done by them.
And I just showed you how each bible was made and the Tyndale Bible was the only other bible besides the KJV that was translated from the original Greek and Hebrew.
They translated the KJV from the original Hebrew and Greek, and then compared it to those other bibles. And like I showed you the Tyndale Bible was not even a completed bible as Tyndale died before completing it. Coverdale was the one who finished it for his version, but he translated form German and Latin for the OT and not the Hebrew.

 

[prove-all]

14And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast
to the Lord throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.


not a shadow but a memoral, and ordinance for ever.

 

[prove-all]

I certainly agree with this. Personally, I do not celebrate Easter as a religious holiday. The christianization of paganism is indeed reason for concern. The remembrance of the passion of Christ was to be celebrated every Lord's day and that celebration as described in the NT bears absolutely no resemblance to Easter.

do you have a bible verse that says to celebrate the lords day ?

what is the lords day? because of passion of Christ ?

Woe unto you that desire the day of the Lord! to what end is it for you?
the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light.​

 

[prove-all]

these headlines in todays worlds news should be disturbing

http://www.endtime.net/engelsk/familyday.pdf

 

[ThomistColin]

do you have a bible verse that says to celebrate the lords day ?

what is the lords day? because of passion of Christ ?

Woe unto you that desire the day of the Lord! to what end is it for you?
the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light.​

Sing unto the Lord a new song.

That's all that is commanded. God does not command that a certain tune or lyric is used to praise and honor Him.

So the same with the Lord's Day and Resurrection Sunday. We celebrate that this anniversary is the day upon which the Lord made all things new. We are singing unto the Lord a new song. Praise and glory to His Holy Name.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

well every church i have ever been to has them pews facing east.

you haven't been to many churches then...

...but of course this kind of false doctrine is usually promoted especially by people who don't go to real churches and therefore have nobody to correct their errors...

 

[john832]

do you have a bible verse that says to celebrate the lords day ?

what is the lords day?

I know! I know! Please let me answer!

Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

 

[john832]

you haven't been to many churches then...

...but of course this kind of false doctrine is usually promoted especially by people who don't go to real churches and therefore have nobody to correct their errors...

You mean the kind of real churches that can count three days and three nights from Friday Sunset to before dawn on Sunday morning?

 

[Kaycie]

Easter comes from the worship of the goddess Ishtar the goddess of fertilization. That's why they rolled eggs and we transformed it to the Easter bunny that brings eggs to the children. again a lie. Which takes the focus off of what really happened and that is Christ crucified. How many will lie to their children?

I don't even teach my children that Santa Claus is real (and they enjoyed it just as much as a story as other children do a truth). I think most people associate Easter with Christ rather than paganism. But to Christians every Sunday is Easter- a time to reflect on God's sacrifice for us and partake of the Lord's Supper, and every day is Christmas- a time to share God's love with others, and to be a peace with everyone.

 

[MarcR]

I don't even teach my children that Santa Claus is real (and they enjoyed it just as much as a story as other children do a truth). I think most people associate Easter with Christ rather than paganism. But to Christians every Sunday is Easter- a time to reflect on God's sacrifice for us and partake of the Lord's Supper, and every day is Christmas- a time to share God's love with others, and to be a peace with everyone.

I agree with you completely! Christians do not tend to associate Easter with paganism.

Non-Christians tend to associate Easter with fertility symbols.

As believers, two considerations should be important to us:

1) We are called to be holy. That requires consciously separating ourselves from worldly values and practices.

2) We are called to make disciples. This obliges us to voluntarily refrain from doing anything that might compromise our witness.

This thread's purpose was ONLY to consider whether changing the NAME of the day to reflect to UNBELIEVERS clearly what the day is about; and to dissociate ourselves from apparent ties to paganism is worthwhile.

 

[john832]

I agree with you completely! Christians do not tend to associate Easter with paganism.

Non-Christians tend to associate Easter with fertility symbols.

As believers, two considerations should be important to us:

1) We are called to be holy. That requires consciously separating ourselves from worldly values and practices.

2) We are called to make disciples. This obliges us to voluntarily refrain from doing anything that might compromise our witness.

This thread's purpose was ONLY to consider whether changing the NAME of the day to reflect to UNBELIEVERS clearly what the day is about; and to dissociate ourselves from apparent ties to paganism is worthwhile.

Sure they do, it is called syncretism. The blending of pagan rites with Christianity.

 

[prove-all]

Sing unto the Lord a new song.

That's all that is commanded. God does not command that a certain tune or lyric is used to praise and honor Him.

So the same with the Lord's Day and Resurrection Sunday. We celebrate that this anniversary is the day upon which the Lord made all things new. We are singing unto the Lord a new song. Praise and glory to His Holy Name.

he commanded us to honor him on ULB feast, to be keep [it ] a feast day, not change to roman ways,

but man and the world follows his fathers tradations, the devil.

1 Corinthians 5:7 (KJV)
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.
For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1 Corinthians 5:8 (KJV)
Therefore let us (keep the feast), not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;
but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.