Paster Women?

[Grace777x70]

I have to say that I am ashamed of my own specie by observing the ungodly way some men in here have spoken about women in such a derogatory and ungodly manner.

I apologize to all you ladies for my specie.....

I bless you and all of you are highly favored, greatly blessed and very deeply loved!

The Father and our Lord Jesus think that your value is inestimable and they can't wait to put their arms around each of you and look into your eyes and tell you how precious you are to them.

 

[AuntieAnt]

What does the Bible say or teach about women preaching the Word of God?

Example:
How about " Paster Joyce Meyer "

Look it up.

Wow, in hindsight Willie_T's response was the best answer of all and we should have ended it right there. The op baboo never even came back to discuss it further, so perhaps he DID look it up.

 

[Depleted]

Thank you for your kindness in explaining yourself, brother Phil. To be fair to you, I will explain the situation we women are put in.

When I lived for the world, I did dress provocatively to fit in. I was very shy and vulnerable, in fact afraid of men because of my abusive past. But it's drilled into your head from a little girl on up to adulthood to look a certain way. Your body parts, your hair, your height, your weight, your walk, your voice, the look on your face, your clothing, are constantly compared to other females. Most of the comments women hear from men our entire lives are regarding our outward appearance.

After I was saved, I heard the religious jargon about the body being a temple, dress to make Jesus “look appealing” to the world, brainwashed into believing I should dress up on Sundays out of respect for God, and I struggled to find a happy medium between keeping my husband’s eyes happy and not being a temptation to other men in the church. I tried to compare with the look of the pastor’s sweet and innocent "Proverbs 31 wife".

No matter what I did, I evidently missed the mark. Because it never stopped some men (and some women) criticizing me for something I failed to do. And it also didn’t guarantee I wouldn’t be made a pass at or groped by a guy in the church. My daughter was grabbed by a guy in the church and she was in puberty at the time.

Even on this site are provocative comments and pictures of what kind of females are attractive. And us women join in, too and treat one another like we’re cattle in a 4H contest. So you're right about vanity, Phil. It's next to impossible to break out of the mindset that we women are just physical objects to be desired.

Women are made to feel they must bring pleasure in some way or they are misfits or of little worth. If she isn’t someone to fantasize about, she isn’t worthy to pursue. If she's too attractive, she's a temptation.

Worst of all, we have to deal with the poison arrow of being at fault for men lusting. If they can see any of our curves, we’re a Jezebel. If we bend over to pick something up, we have to make sure not to face our backside toward you, not to bend toward you for fear you may see down our blouse, bend our knees enough so you don’t see up our skirt because all those things might make men lust. We must always be on the alert not to tempt you, 24/7.

If we pay attention to a man or speak sweetly, we may get accused of flirting. If we look you in the eye and smile when we see you, we may be trying to seduce you. If we shake your hand too firmly, we’re not feminine enough. If we hug you enthusiastically, we’re really making a pass. If we ignore you, we’re the “b” word.

Don’t you realize what bondage it is to make a woman constantly aware of not making men lust? Wouldn’t it be easier for men to just look at women the way Jesus does? NOT in the flesh, but as a spiritual child of God who happens to be in the bodily form God created her? Phil, we women need you men to stand and protect and lift us up above worldly physical standards. We need you to address other men to treat us like sisters and mothers and not as objects. We need you to look at us women honorably and lovingly with the eyes of Jesus.

The “weaker vessel” doesn’t mean God made women wimpy second-class partners. A weaker vessel refers to the tackle and armament of ships, used specifically of sails and ropes and equipping military forces for war. In other words, the husband is the head, the wife is what turns the head. The man is like a ship of war in this world, the wife is what’s equipping that ship and keeping it from going down. They work together, different roles, equal partners.

Husbands can't blame a wife for not being a good enough helper when he is criticizing her, comparing her to other women, shooting arrows at her, ignoring her, making jokes about her, neglecting her needs. In fact, men are told to take care of their wife’s needs first, love her, dwell with her in peace, treat her honorably, being faithful to her in word and deed, and treating other women like sisters and mothers. When you love your wife, you're loving yourself, Christ said.

Today I wear whatever clothes are comfortable & the colors and material makes me happy. I don’t wanna worry about what I wear because it’s a waste of time. I would rather give my full attention to you, Phil and to others and show kindness and love rather than be self-conscious and dwelling on myself.

I'm in training to see Jesus in everyone and it’s such a joyful way of life. Praise God He's teaching us His perfect ways!!

If we're dwelling on the outward man and acknowledging people according to their flesh, we're like the kid in that movie, The Sixth Sense.

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Because that’s what we'd be seeing in people, the old dead man. We need to see people in the spirit with the mind of Christ. Don't you agree with that, Phil?

Amen!

And you see vessel as ships? I've always pictured us as wine glasses and men are coffee mugs. Still hold the same amount of liquid, but you can put a lot more weight on a coffee mug than you can on a wine glass.

 

[Utah]

But even a mute can slap someone.

Just sayin'...

No physical abuse could ever destroy the peace I enjoy when its' quiet.

 

[ramx2016]

But even a mute can slap someone.

Just sayin'...

O so now we CONDONE violence against the innocent?

 

[coby]

Whew! Glad I'm not a man. I didn't get it! lol

Men should dress up more colourful or like a peacock to impress me. All those boring black suits.

 

[seoulsearch]

No physical abuse could ever destroy the peace I enjoy when its' quiet.

Beware, Ladies!

Methinks Utah is trying to play hard-to-get.

 

[Utah]

baboo never even came back to discuss it further, so perhaps he DID look it up.

He's either a troll or God called him home shortly after starting the thread.

 

[seoulsearch]

O so now we CONDONE violence against the innocent?

Now you've gone and done it, ramx!

The whole definition of "innocent" is enough to start an entirely new argument.

 

[KJV1611]

good thing men can't be decieved...

Men are left brain women are right brain, that's a known fact. Yall deal in emotions primarily as is evidenced in this thread. Men post scripture and you women get all emotional about and take it as your not good enough. What can I say the bible is right.

 

[KJV1611]

Really?

What? She does look like the Joker.

 

[ramx2016]

Now you've gone and done it, ramx!

The whole definition of "innocent" is enough to start an entirely new argument.

Oh sorry... I mean the inherently innocent.... such as my brother Utah... or just men in general...

K gotta go.. .Love u guys!

 

[Utah]

Men are left brain women are right brain, that's a known fact. Yall deal in emotions primarily as is evidenced in this thread. Men post scripture and you women get all emotional about and take it as your not good enough. What can I say the bible is right.

And you wonder why they get upset?

 

[Miri]

Raises hands.

Can I just ask a question. Sorry I haven't read the whole thread,
just a few bits here and there so this might have been covered somewhere.

Various people have mentioned women under authority from husbands, pastors,
fathers, leaders etc.

Maybe this is off topic, but what if you are a single woman with no earthly father
who cannot always get to church?

This is a genuine question, just wondered.

 

[psalm6819]

Just remember..your mother was a woman, as are your gramma/sisters/ nieces/daughters/wife..

you'll never get away from us

we're bad, we're nationwide,

we are in your house, your neighborhood, your place of work ...we are everywhere

spooky laughter

 

[KJV1611]

And you wonder why they get upset?

They're right brained emotional beings, God made them that way. I'm just stating the obvious. That's why they shouldn't teach a man or usurp authority over them... that's what the bible says.

 

[KJV1611]

Raises hands.

Can I just ask a question. Sorry I haven't read the whole thread,
just a few bits here and there so this might have been covered somewhere.

Various people have mentioned women under authority from husbands, pastors,
fathers, leaders etc.

Maybe this is off topic, but what if you are a single woman with no earthly father
who cannot always get to church?

This is a genuine question, just wondered.

Christ is your husband.

 

[AuntieAnt]

Men are left brain women are right brain, that's a known fact. Yall deal in emotions primarily as is evidenced in this thread. Men post scripture and you women get all emotional about and take it as your not good enough. What can I say the bible is right.

What? She does look like the Joker.

Are those quotes from the KJV? I can't find them in my NIV.

 

[ramx2016]

Just remember..your mother was a woman, as are your gramma/sisters/ nieces/daughters/wife..

you'll never get away from us

we're bad, we're nationwide,

we are in your house, your neighborhood, your place of work ...we are everywhere

spooky laughter

Ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

Daddy needs 17 more drinks...

 

[PilgrimPassingThru]

JosephsDreams

I don't know what all the controversy is, we all know a woman is just a rib with 2 eyes...

For dust thou art (Gen 3:19) Adam was formed first
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground

Would that make a man just a dust ball with 2 eyes?

Tis' true the woman was made of secondhand dirt

God took the rib but what it could mean is the closest place to a man's heart.

She is shown as the bone of his bone, who is of his body, and they are told to love their wives

Ephes 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies.

He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

In respects to his wife he is told not to deal treacherously with them Mal 2:14 Not to be bitter against them Col 3:19 To give honour to their wives 1 Peter 3:7 even as unto the weaker vessel (made from your body).

So I thought, maybe love for a woman might not come as naturally for a man then his sensual lust for a woman maybe?

Because men typically love a beautiful woman, they will commonly chose one out the beautiful ones for their own wives, later as they grow older they crucify women for her beauty or for tending to it (and how vain it all is). Because beauty is vain (no doubt) it is about appearances (when outward) or what pleases the eyes. The same with Absolum (naturally so) And many women will respond to tending to herself in ways where it is become evident to her concerning what most men desire in a woman. Whether right or wrong her aim when seeking a man (or a mate) even for marrying is to draw him in (just to get him to consider her) she questions whether she will be pleasing him. A good man who loves her soul would teach her to be less focused on her outward ornamentation and for her on her inward, this which is after the same manner in the old time holy women who trusted in God did and in that same way. He also says these do so being in subjection unto their own husbands in that doing. Which would also indicate she has a godly husband (not one desiring a trophy wife on his arm) but to the contrary (and she in subjection to him) in this very thing.

What I was curious about was if the part she was taken from was the weakest part of him in some way? Which is why she is called the weaker (in terms of her vessel). And since God chose to make her from a specific part of him where she becomes that weaker because of the part of him (from where) she is made (for him).

Do you know? Or anyone? I was looking that up but I had no luck seeking the ribcage is kind of a network of bones which protect the heart and the lungs, but nothing of the strength of them to make that stick in any way.