Paul's Mention Of Christ In You??

Noblemen · Feb 22, 2019

I have taken alot of things for granted as a Christian, even spiritual things.
Seems to be normal for humanity to do this, if life is working out we are ok with it. If life is not working out it brings on a mode of seaching for the reason. Thinking about some of the situations Christians endure, couldn't help but think about what Paul had to say about Christ living in the born again.
The question that came was; How did Paul know Christ was living in the born again. His epistles mention it over 150 times in one way or another.

I'll ask you the same question; How did Paul know Christ was living in the born again???
If you care to take a shot.

Serious Answer's Please

CharliRenee · Feb 22, 2019

For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man's gospel. For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. And I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers. But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone;
Galatians 1:11‭-‬12‭, ‬14‭-‬16 ESV
https://bible.com/bible/59/gal.1.11-16.ESV

7seasrekeyed · Feb 22, 2019

Noblemen said:

Believers have the Holy Spirit within us. Jesus has ascended but the Holy Spirit was sent on the day of Pentecost, as promised

that is what Paul meant by Christ within us. the Holy Spirit does not speak of Himself, but speaks of the truth of the gospel and all that is of God

at the same time, we are also IN Christ...that is, He is our salvation and through His blood we are redeemed, sanctified and continuing in sanctification, as long as we are IN Christ. this is not something we can do on our own

it's actually a large part of teaching in the NT and some folks still do not understand that we do not become or are not suddenly made sinless. we are sinless in the eyes of our Creator, but only through the lens of His Son

Noose · Feb 22, 2019

It is the understanding and understanding is in the mind, the mind is the spirit or inseparable with the spirit which makes up the soul.
Not just understanding of anything but of the truth and the truth is God; Truth doesn't decay but remains forever and so if the truth is in you, thou shall not die but live and this is the resurrection.

This revelation was nothing new, it started from the garden of Eden with Adam and it is what has always been preached:

1 John 2: 7Beloved, I am not writing you a new commandment, but an old one, which you have had from the beginning. This commandment is the message you have heard.

MessageOfTheCross · Feb 22, 2019

“11 But I certify you, Brethren (make known), that the Gospel which was Preached of me (the Message of the Cross) is not after man. (Any Message other than the Cross is definitely devised by man.)

12 For I neither received it of man (Paul had not learned this great Truth from human teachers), neither was I taught it (he denies instruction from other men), but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ. (Revelation is the mighty Act of God whereby the Holy Spirit discloses to the human mind that which could not be understood without Divine Intervention.)” Gal. 1:11-12

Excerpt From
The Expositor's Study Bible
Jimmy Swaggart
https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/the-expositors-study-bible/id399697870?mt=11
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obedienttogod · Feb 22, 2019

Saul knew Yeshua was killed, he was a Pharisee killing followers of Christ. When Saul met Yeshua in person, Saul, well versed and educated with the Torah and Law...knew of things like spirit dwelling, good/bad spirits, resurrection, etc. With Yeshua Himself speaking to Saul, Saul would have no issues understanding anything being said to him. Saul to Paul, he knew Yeshua was alive in the afterlife. Not long after, Paul claims to even have visited the 3rd heaven and been in the presence of God (the Risen Yeshua), this is where his thorn in the side comes from.

Paul saw Yeshua and claimed that Yeshua spoke to him on all matters and what he wrote about. Paul knew Yeshua was "Born Again" by first hand experience.

garee · Feb 22, 2019

Noblemen said:

2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this Bin earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us

I would suggest. Paul knew as a witness of the unseen spirit Christ that it was living in himself as the born again. Our treasure of our new heart by the witness of the Spirit.

The same way the Bereans' knew Paul's word was not his won when Paul preached the gospel. God working as a mutual work of Christ's faith in the creatures yoked with the creature. to both will and do his good pleasure... moving them having prepared their minds to search the scriptures daily to see if what men say comes from them our God who lives in them and not after the flesh .He gives us the noble honor of calling us kings as t a kingdom of priest.

Acts 17:10-12 King James Version (KJV)And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the JewsThese were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

obedienttogod · Feb 22, 2019

AMEN!!

From letter to letter, we can see the growth in Paul. He personally had the Risen Yeshua (God) all over his presence. His knowledge becomes greater, his triumphs were expected, his death was glorious because Paul exemplified the example of Christ till the very end. He WON his race!!

No doubt Paul knew he was full of Christ. For a man who was better than well versed in the Torah and Law, he basically wrote the New Law under the influence and power of God living within him!!

Deade · Feb 22, 2019

obedienttogod said:

It seems to me that Paul did not experience the third heaven, but said he knew of another.

2 Cor. 12:2-5 "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth)—such an one caught up to the third heaven. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth)—How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities."

I think Paul was warning us to take these visions at face value and not make more of them than what we should. My second wife had a near death experience with a vision attached, but we did not establish doctrine off that. God knew He wasn't going to leave her dead so it falls outside normal happenstance.

Lanolin · Feb 22, 2019

Noblemen said:

Well Paul told the phillipians that he could do all things through Christ who strengthens me.

Why because he learned the secret of being content...he had been stoned, put in jail, shipwrecked, had false brethren, hed been poor, hungry and desttitute as well as wealthy well fed and priveliges. through all this Christ was with him. Plus hed said he needed to obey the gospel. Woe is me if I do not preach the gospel. Since Jesus had appeared to him and commissioned him, Paul obeyed. He suffered a lot but Jesus actually told him he would suffer...not because Jesus was some kind of masochist but because he knew Paul when he was Pharisee Saul had actually persectured believers before and made them suffer. So he had to know the depths of suffering.

When things dont go right or our way we suffer...but suffering is sometimes necesssry for greater victory. Otherwise Jesus would not have gone to the cross, not died, and subsequently not be raised to life again. JEsus could have said to His Father...Im not going to the cross, I'll just escape to egypt and live in luxury, they will accept me there. If he had done that (and he had the free will to do anything he chose) it would be completely different outcome for us. No but Jesus chose to lay down his life for us.

Noblemen · Feb 24, 2019

Thank you for your answers. I didn't mention it but wasn't looking for anything in particular, just curious what everyone else had on their mind. It is some of the things I question myself about and seek the Lord. The lord is always faithful to give you what you need, if you get nothing on a particular idea or whatever you seek our Father for than it my not be that important to our understanding.

A foot note just came in; if you are a person going about to straighten out the world system and have a need to picket and protest, which seems to be the norm for this social hour; and the world is getting worse, then maybe it's not that important to your understanding, js.
If you have a burden then maybe your called to the ministry, have you ever let that cross your mind.
If so, we are not protesters we are preachers, ministers of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Many are called but few answer.

Deade · Feb 24, 2019

Noblemen said:

Well Noblemen, to protest or not? Would that not depend on what our motive is for God's word? Is it our intent to save/change the world? What does the word accomplish once it is sowed, so to speak? Let's see what God says about it:

Isaiah 55:11 "So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it."

It is clear, God's word put forth does just what He intends for it. Now for you original question: How did Paul know Christ was living in the born again? My answer would be to ask yourself: What are your priorities now as God's servant?

Mark 10:28-30 "Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee. And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life."

Have you given up all things that this world has for you? Or is your heart still holding on to this world's riches? Matt. 6:21 "For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Noblemen · Feb 25, 2019

Deade said:

Sure, but not the world, the world is a system that can not change, those in it can. The word preached changes lives, not much protesting has accomplished this through the ages, small amounts where very necessary, but were social changes which is good but doesnt save anyone.
If someone feels led of God to protest then they should. We have a new generation I believe thinks that may be the answer, that was my point it has never worked before and it won't work now, Thanks

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