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we are on this Train -
there are many starts and stops along the way to our ultimate destination,
using the gifts of 'grace and faith and always walking in the Light' will
keep us in favor in our Father's eyes.
if we keep steadfast unto the end, if we stay on the Train,
we will wear our 'white robes'.
we are on this Train -
there are many starts and stops along the way to our ultimate destination,
using the gifts of 'grace and faith and always walking in the Light' will
keep us in favor in our Father's eyes.
if we keep steadfast unto the end, if we stay on the Train,
we will wear our 'white robes'.
I am not talking believers backsliding into sin and with them coming back (Which is by God's grace and mercy). James 5:19-20 talks about a believer helping another believer who has erred from the truth to come back to a saving faith by helping them to repent to the Lord. I am talking about the false teaching of OSAS which will lead people down the wrong path of immorality. Yes, David sinned. But he did not keep doing so as a way of life against God. For David was a man after God's own heart. If a believer sins, it is very serious. Sin put Jesus Christ on the cross. If one is born again it should be unnatural for them to sin. It will go against the new person they are in Christ. If they sin, they need to confess that sin and forsake it. No believer is saved if they abide in unrepentant sin as a way of life. Yes, I realize some believers struggle with sin, but this is not something that will forever grip their life. We are free from the dominion of sin if we are in Christ Jesus.
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Amen, for those of us who understand the law. this is so true!
The problem is people look with blinders.
I do not do this and that so I am righteous.
While ignoring the fact. they still sin themselves, and are no better in the eyes of God than the person standing next to them, no matter who is standing next to them.
The problem is people look with blinders.
I do not do this and that so I am righteous.
While ignoring the fact. they still sin themselves, and are no better in the eyes of God than the person standing next to them, no matter who is standing next to them.
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Christ was the perfect example of this.
He drank with sinners, ate with sinners, did not judge sinners, and was even called a sinner.
if he was here today, people like jason would condemn him also. because he vomits their legalism out of his mouth, and would condemn them also. just like he did the pharisee.
He drank with sinners, ate with sinners, did not judge sinners, and was even called a sinner.
if he was here today, people like jason would condemn him also. because he vomits their legalism out of his mouth, and would condemn them also. just like he did the pharisee.
Yes, well I like wearing my white robe while on the train...
Isaiah 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
Isaiah 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
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Like when noah entered the ark. God sealed him in, until the day he opened the door.
We to are sealed the moment we enter the train, with the holy spirit, unti as paul calls it, the day of redemption
there is no getting off the train, even if you would want to. which no man who understood where the train was going, would ever want to do.
Amen to that.......more salvation lite doctrine.........and working for salvation while chunking grace out the back door and ignoring that where sin abounds...grace did much more abound.....and of course we teach you can live anyway you want to live.....! I can think of a few letter combinations but will spare so as to not get banned....!
Amen to that.....that is what you get when you deny the following....
1. That Christ saves to the uttermost
2. That Christ continually makes intercession for the saved
3. The complete sealing of the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption
4. That what God does it is eternal...nothing added or taken away from it
5. The righteousness of God is imputed unto the believer while ALL of our sin was nailed to the cross
6. That we are saved, justified, and sanctified in Christ eternally
7. Our life is HID within Christ
8. Salvation is based upon faith, grace, mercy and is a free gift that cannot be earned, maintained or regained by works
9. It is the spirit that has been born again, does not sin and is eternally secure in Christ while being bound in a fallen wicked sinful body that is not subject unto the law of God, cannot be subject unto the law of God and occasionally wins and we sin
ETC.
1. That Christ saves to the uttermost
2. That Christ continually makes intercession for the saved
3. The complete sealing of the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption
4. That what God does it is eternal...nothing added or taken away from it
5. The righteousness of God is imputed unto the believer while ALL of our sin was nailed to the cross
6. That we are saved, justified, and sanctified in Christ eternally
7. Our life is HID within Christ
8. Salvation is based upon faith, grace, mercy and is a free gift that cannot be earned, maintained or regained by works
9. It is the spirit that has been born again, does not sin and is eternally secure in Christ while being bound in a fallen wicked sinful body that is not subject unto the law of God, cannot be subject unto the law of God and occasionally wins and we sin
ETC.
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True, we have complete validation from God. But there is nothing wrong with needing validation from others espcially those claiming to have same like mindedness. We have felt pushed to the sidelines in our church. Oh, they wanted our money but they didn't want us. They were very into reaching out to those outside the church but they missed the opportunity of the hearts crying out right out under their noses. We felt like the 'unclean'. After 3 and 1/2 years we left.
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The only one that can walk in obedience all the time is Jesus alone. There is seven things that God hates, and a proud look is at the top of the list, Proverbs 6:16-19. When we were born of the Spirit we did not leave our natural man behind. Paul talks about how those who are born of the Spirit having a warfare going on within them, the flesh against the Spirit. We will not honor God as we should until we deny ourselves and our ability to do spiritual things by our nature.
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If you think that you can lose your eternal salvation by a sin that you commit, then Christ died in vain. Christ was victorious in his work on the cross accomplishing his Father's will by redeeming those that God gave him back to God. Christ's offer was to God, for God to accept, not to man for man to accept. When we sin, as we all do, and repent of that sin there is a salvation(deliverance) that takes place. It is delivering us back into a good fellowship with our God. Not delivering us eternally, because He has already done that.