Philippians: Paul's "Stairway to Heaven"?

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SilverFox7

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I am too, a fan of Old Time Rock n Roll. Jesus is the rock that rolls. The grave is empty, he is risen for us to be also
I love the Song "Spirit in the Sky" Norman Greebaum
Thank you homwardbound for inspiring me to look into the lyrics of "Spirit in the Sky" and see if I can make any connections between that song and Philippians. I'll start with the opening chorus:

When I die and they lay me to rest
Gonna go to the place that's the best
When I lay me down to die
Goin' up to the spirit in the sky


When we as Christians die, we are going to the place that's the best - heaven:

Philippians 3:20-21

New King James Version

20 For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.

We are citizens of heaven right now thanks to Christ Jesus, and we are ambassadors of heaven spreading Jesus' gospel in these "lowly" mortal bodies today. However, after death, we will be transformed from these lowly bodies to "...be conformed to His glorious body."

As Paul so beautifully described to the Corinthians:

1 Corinthians 15:53-54

New King James Version

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.”

That which claims our frail, short mortal lives - death - will be "swallowed up in victory!" Death is the one who will ultimately die forever, and Death will no longer hold claim to us in heaven.

Here are the full lyrics to "Spirit in the Sky", and I'll see if I can continue to make connections between every stanza and some verses from Philippians. The theology of the song is shaky in areas, but I'll avoid the weeds and keep the focus on this stunning testament to Jesus and the gospel.

When I die and they lay me to rest
Gonna go to the place that's the best
When I lay me down to die
Goin' up to the spirit in the sky

Goin' up to the spirit in the sky (spirit in the sky)
That's where I'm gonna go when I die (when I die)
When I die and they lay me to rest
I'm gonna go to the place that's the best

Prepare yourself you know it's a must
Gotta have a friend in Jesus
So you know that when you die
He's gonna recommend you
To the spirit in the sky (spirit in the sky)

Oh he'll recommend you to the spirit in the sky
That's where you're gonna go when you die (when you die)
When you die and they lay you to rest
You're gonna go to the place that's the best

Never been a sinner, I never sinned
I got a friend in Jesus
So you know that when I die
He's gonna set me up
with the spirit in the sky

Oh set me up with the spirit in the sky (spirit in the sky)
That's where I'm gonna go when I die (when I die)
When I die and they lay me to rest
I'm gonna go to the place that's the best
Go to the place that's the best

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Never been a sinner, I never sinned
I got a friend in Jesus
So you know that when I die
He's gonna set me up
with the spirit in the sky
Touchy, these lyrics above, yet I know I have sinned over and over again not wanting to sin, have left many behind me as God reveals to me, it is not good for me to continue in. Over me saying Forgive me over and over again. Repent, repent repent or you are not in, human understanding, that traps people in sin. (Romans 7)
What??????????????, but I just!
I got to ask for more? I got to quit!

I agree, we all got to quit, yet none of us can, by not letting go ( not willing to be dead to the flesh nature daily (Romans 6), that God took care of on that cross over 2,000 years ago now all the nasty nines and dirty dozen for you gone from God's sight, not the flesh sight. Done once for us all on the cross in his one time willing death. (Hebrews 10:10) Otherwise, one stays stuck in sin over and over again, by trying, (Being aware) to not sin, causes sin. That focus to not sin is good to the first born flesh, not to God, as the flesh looks upon flesh and sees other's as better than you are, and you know it, by the sin you do behind closed doors. Guilty and hiding. Trying to be better (Luke 18:9-14) Or you do not believe God and are only playing Church. Gettin g rewards from people, not from God, each person knows in themselves, I have no reason to accuse or excuse anyone

Anyone's obedience perfect? None! Then how is anyone having any right to berate anyone else over the others sin (Luke 18:9-14) (Rom 2:1-4) Did God take all sin away on that cross in Son or not? All but "Unbelief" to he is now and forever risen to never die again (John 1:29)
(John 19:30) is the fulfillment of the Law and Propgets. It is not taking the Law and Prophets away, it is the fulfillment. (Matthew 5:17-18) to be fulfilled in you, you, me and all others in belief too, to the entire Cross of Son for you. It has not a thing to do with trying to do what is now done for us by Son for us. Be risen by God for you to rest in this amazing grace and sin will fall away over time in not quitting trusting God it is done for you too.
Time to believe in thanksgiving and praise, as the Song states, that no flesh nature can fathom. Only, In God's Spirit and truth it is done, (John 4:23-24) As Father waits for the next believer to enter in with God and Son for them to be new, getting, too busy doing what is right over all the troubles out in this world of people seeing it this or that way, or the highway, people say to one another, That is not the truth of God, I got to do right, try, try, try, try! How well are you going inn that method? I have been there only to see No flesh can please God but Son's that fit it all in on that cross once for us all. For us to be given new life in
Son's risen Life from God Father of Jesus
Those verses are true of Norman Greenbaum, that God revealed to him, has revealed now to me and am thankful, not proud, just thankful. Trusting fro all sin to leave as God reveals how to me. ?will y'all too, If one is sincere in belief too
 

SilverFox7

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Dec 24, 2022
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Grand Rapids, Michigan
#43
Touchy, these lyrics above, yet I know I have sinned over and over again not wanting to sin, have left many behind me as God reveals to me, it is not good for me to continue in. Over me saying Forgive me over and over again. Repent, repent repent or you are not in, human understanding, that traps people in sin. (Romans 7)
What??????????????, but I just!
I got to ask for more? I got to quit!

I agree, we all got to quit, yet none of us can, by not letting go ( not willing to be dead to the flesh nature daily (Romans 6), that God took care of on that cross over 2,000 years ago now all the nasty nines and dirty dozen for you gone from God's sight, not the flesh sight. Done once for us all on the cross in his one time willing death. (Hebrews 10:10) Otherwise, one stays stuck in sin over and over again, by trying, (Being aware) to not sin, causes sin. That focus to not sin is good to the first born flesh, not to God, as the flesh looks upon flesh and sees other's as better than you are, and you know it, by the sin you do behind closed doors. Guilty and hiding. Trying to be better (Luke 18:9-14) Or you do not believe God and are only playing Church. Gettin g rewards from people, not from God, each person knows in themselves, I have no reason to accuse or excuse anyone

Anyone's obedience perfect? None! Then how is anyone having any right to berate anyone else over the others sin (Luke 18:9-14) (Rom 2:1-4) Did God take all sin away on that cross in Son or not? All but "Unbelief" to he is now and forever risen to never die again (John 1:29)
(John 19:30) is the fulfillment of the Law and Propgets. It is not taking the Law and Prophets away, it is the fulfillment. (Matthew 5:17-18) to be fulfilled in you, you, me and all others in belief too, to the entire Cross of Son for you. It has not a thing to do with trying to do what is now done for us by Son for us. Be risen by God for you to rest in this amazing grace and sin will fall away over time in not quitting trusting God it is done for you too.
Time to believe in thanksgiving and praise, as the Song states, that no flesh nature can fathom. Only, In God's Spirit and truth it is done, (John 4:23-24) As Father waits for the next believer to enter in with God and Son for them to be new, getting, too busy doing what is right over all the troubles out in this world of people seeing it this or that way, or the highway, people say to one another, That is not the truth of God, I got to do right, try, try, try, try! How well are you going inn that method? I have been there only to see No flesh can please God but Son's that fit it all in on that cross once for us all. For us to be given new life in
Son's risen Life from God Father of Jesus
Those verses are true of Norman Greenbaum, that God revealed to him, has revealed now to me and am thankful, not proud, just thankful. Trusting fro all sin to leave as God reveals how to me. ?will y'all too, If one is sincere in belief too
Amen. The line, "Never been a sinner, I never sinned" does not align with Christian doctrine. I suppose the closest I can come to explaining this to support the poetry from the song is how Christ takes all of our sins upon Him and through His sacrificial death, forgives them and provides grace and reconciliation:

2 Corinthians 5:21

New King James Version

21 For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

We are "righteous" in God's eyes through Jesus who washes away all of our sins as our Savior. But, "never been a sinner, I never sinned" certainly doesn't apply to me in the past, present, or future of this life. Wrestling with sin and giving into weakness and failing is part of being human, and repentance and asking for forgiveness is an ongoing state in my relationship with God.

1 John 1:8-10

New King James Version

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

Purging sin out of our lives is a continual process that doesn't end until we die and receive that new, eternal life in Christ Jesus. The Holy Spirit is hard at work in the innermost parts of our being, and we need to let Him do His work. As sin is identified, we need to "confess our sins" before the Mercy Seat to receive forgiveness and cleansing.

So, yes, "never been a sinner, I never sinned" is the most glaring error in the song as it relates to our Christian lives. I always have been a sinner, still am, will continue to sin as long as I'm in the flesh, but I will still keep up the fight against sin by the power of the Holy Spirit and ask my Father for forgiveness through Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior.
 

SilverFox7

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Love is also what we do not only what we say we should always be willing to look at our own actions and if they are wrong we should repent and change those things
I like the way you expressed this, brother. Since God's love looks outward, we do not want our actions to disrespect Him or harm others. Love and repentance go hand-in-hand. We need God to change our hearts to be filled with more of His love.