No arguments or theories here, just scripture
Revelation 5:8-10
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every KINDRED, and TONGUE, and PEOPLE, and NATION;
And hast made us unto our God KINGS and PRIESTS: and we shall reign on the earth.
-There are more than 24 nations and tongues even at the time this book was written.
Revelation 1:6
And hath made us KINGS and PRIESTS unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen
-That verse should tell you something about the identity of who the elders are.
Revelation6:9-11
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
Revelation 7:13-14
And one of the ELDERS answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
-The events in revelation are in chronological order. These were taken OUT of the tribulation before the seventh seal was broken. Also notice that one of the ELDERS answered unto John and remember we are kings and priests. These ELDERS and the ones in white robes aren't the same obviously.
Revelation 7:3-4
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our GOD ON THEIR FOREHEADS.
And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
-These Jews are the ones who are gonna go through the rest of the tribulation. The WHITE ROBED weren't sealed but taken out remember that.
Revelation 9:3-4
And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of GOD ON THEIR FOREHEADS.
-Obviously the Jews will be protected from these judgments on the earth dwellers.
Revelation 11:7-9
7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the BEAST THAT ASCENDETH OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
-First time the beast is ever mentioned, which is obviously after the WHITE HORSE RIDER. That tells you that the white horse rider and the beast aren't the same because the beast comes at a certain time as illustrated.
