Praying in Tongues
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If we don't know what to say, the Lord still knows what we need before we ask him. That does not mean we don't ask, but we ask knowing that he cares for us and understands. At times before I would be crying and not fully understand why. I may be reading the bible or in prayer for example and I would start crying. Still in the moments if I don't fully understand why I am sad or emotional, the Lord knows and cares.
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I didn't say God doesn't or can not heal or save, i said gifts ceased in the 1st century and the men going around today thinking they are gifted are deceived.
Q. Are there men today who are gifted to the extent they have power to raise the dead physically?
You don't need to answer that because we can all see the answer is a big NO. Can we say that God has limited Himself? No. It is just the season for harvesting.
Q. Are there men today who are gifted to the extent they have power to raise the dead physically?
You don't need to answer that because we can all see the answer is a big NO. Can we say that God has limited Himself? No. It is just the season for harvesting.
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no one said it was tongues doing anything
you apparently have the gift of twisting what others post and it does not come from God
1Now about spiritual gifts, brothers, I do not want you to be uninformed. 2You know that when you were pagans, you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. 3Therefore I inform you that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
4There are different gifts, but the same Spirit. 5There are different ministries, but the same Lord. 6There are different ways of working, but the same God works all things in all men.
7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in various tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, who apportions them to each one as He determines. I Corinthians 12
the gifts are for the edification of believers within a body of believers or, as indicated many times in this thread, AND found in scripture, also for the PERSONAL edification of the believer
it is not love to deny that God gives these gifts through His Spirit
and it is not love to mock and continue to disrupt what was meant to be a productive and useful thread...but what else is new here, eh? love would include listening to others and putting them first since you mentioned love
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he raises the dead every time His Son is accepted and new life is given
I know that is not what you have in mind, but God can and does raise people up physically as well
to say otherwise, means you consider yourself omnipresent and in a manner of speaking, folks who deny deny deny with no proof are basically saying they are god and they will decide and tell everyone else they are wrong
I know that is not what you have in mind, but God can and does raise people up physically as well
to say otherwise, means you consider yourself omnipresent and in a manner of speaking, folks who deny deny deny with no proof are basically saying they are god and they will decide and tell everyone else they are wrong
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I'm looking for the 'gobsmacked' smilie because your ignorance is just screaming here
you are sadly the one speaking meaningless words...absolute babble words of disbelief, ignorance and hatred of what you refuse to believe even though scripture is plain
you damage yourself every single time you do so
there will be no going back one day if it has not already happened
good question I think it is and i could be wrong the context of prayer, supplication and trivial which are all forms od types of Prayer as eph 6 says Jesus too taught us to ask, knock, and seek. The example in the Parable of the "unjust King" who did for the women who kept asking for help.
the example who was I have would be my son addicted to drugs. Prayed for HIM that God would save him and set him free from drugs. I did not just pray once I prayed daily, and I cried out and ask God to set him free saves his soul deliver him. God answered my prayer. I fasted and prayed I put him on a prayer list with others to pray for him I made a list of other families whose son and daughter were bound by drugs and I prayed for them as James 5 says to do.
make your request with all kinds of prayers in the Spirit Yes I prayed in my private room in tongues and in my understanding and God answered. Do you have to pray in tongues? absolutely not. But you can. and I do.
the example who was I have would be my son addicted to drugs. Prayed for HIM that God would save him and set him free from drugs. I did not just pray once I prayed daily, and I cried out and ask God to set him free saves his soul deliver him. God answered my prayer. I fasted and prayed I put him on a prayer list with others to pray for him I made a list of other families whose son and daughter were bound by drugs and I prayed for them as James 5 says to do.
make your request with all kinds of prayers in the Spirit Yes I prayed in my private room in tongues and in my understanding and God answered. Do you have to pray in tongues? absolutely not. But you can. and I do.
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you have said they have ceased the word of God did not say they would cease in the 1st century. you assume they have because you did not see it. I look at the word of God and if one asked me "does God do miracles today?", I would yes. If they asked have you seen any, I would say yes. And if I did not see any I would say no I have not seen God do a miracle. " That is proof God doesn't do it anymore". I would tell them I believe God does and has done and continues to do miracles and I do not need to see to know HE does them., nor does God need my validation of what HE does.
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Raising the dead is an act of God, which one in the following list is not an act of God; healing/ tongues/teaching/evangelism/ apostalship/ other miracles??
John 14:12Truly, truly, I tell you,whoever believes in Me will also do the works that Iam doing. He will do even greater things than these,because I am going to the Father.
Jesus raised the dead physically and as per the promise above, you should be doing more than just speaking meaningless words.
John 14:12Truly, truly, I tell you,whoever believes in Me will also do the works that Iam doing. He will do even greater things than these,because I am going to the Father.
Jesus raised the dead physically and as per the promise above, you should be doing more than just speaking meaningless words.
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I am not angry, i just did not let something go, to hold someone accountable,
remember what you do when you assume things, Or you point fingers,
But its ok, i am not the only one who sees this,
Once again, mods should be held to a higher standard, if he would have just answered my question like most people do (whether i agree with them or not is not the issue) non of this would have happened. But as usual, he assumes things which are not true, and out of these false assumption (i hate him and i am against certain gifts) we see the result
remember what you do when you assume things, Or you point fingers,
But its ok, i am not the only one who sees this,
Once again, mods should be held to a higher standard, if he would have just answered my question like most people do (whether i agree with them or not is not the issue) non of this would have happened. But as usual, he assumes things which are not true, and out of these false assumption (i hate him and i am against certain gifts) we see the result
There's no such thing as a man dying for 15 minutes, who are you to say that a man died for this amount of time? Spiritually, death means the spirit is separated with the body and is with God- as far as this definition is concerned, there's no such thing as a man dying for 15 minutes, only God knows.
Medically, death could mean no response as is measured by medical equipment. This is not the death i was talking about.
The death i was talking about is like that of Lazarus or better still, you need to ask "if a man died and was buried 2 years ago and doctors use shock treatment and he comes back to life.." then we can talk, otherwise it is a waste of time.
Medically, death could mean no response as is measured by medical equipment. This is not the death i was talking about.
The death i was talking about is like that of Lazarus or better still, you need to ask "if a man died and was buried 2 years ago and doctors use shock treatment and he comes back to life.." then we can talk, otherwise it is a waste of time.
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Anointing of the HS is where we get the gifts sis,
To anoint meant to pour on or in, the HS is poured in us and takes up residence. It is like the symbol of the anointing of arron and his sons when the oil (which represented the HS) was poured on them ( called the anointing)
The baptism was symbolised by arron and his sons being washed in the river jordan, and is the act of God washing us in the washing and regeneration spoken of in titus 3, or the spiritual circumcision done without hands spoken of in col 2.
Also remember, as with all gifts, they are given as the HS determin, not everyone will get every gift, she me may get multiple gifts, some may only get one or two. While we can desire to get certain gifts, it does not mean God will give them,, all gifts are to glorify God, meaning all have to have a purpose. As he wills.
To anoint meant to pour on or in, the HS is poured in us and takes up residence. It is like the symbol of the anointing of arron and his sons when the oil (which represented the HS) was poured on them ( called the anointing)
The baptism was symbolised by arron and his sons being washed in the river jordan, and is the act of God washing us in the washing and regeneration spoken of in titus 3, or the spiritual circumcision done without hands spoken of in col 2.
Also remember, as with all gifts, they are given as the HS determin, not everyone will get every gift, she me may get multiple gifts, some may only get one or two. While we can desire to get certain gifts, it does not mean God will give them,, all gifts are to glorify God, meaning all have to have a purpose. As he wills.
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of course, I should with you unwilling to answer my question.
"man in hospital dies on table for 15 minutes doctors use shock treatment and he comes back to life . Did the doctors raise the dead or did God?"
1. if the doctor brought him back the doctor has the power to raise the dead and you are ok with that because it is a doctor.
2. If you agree with that then God is not the only one who controls those who die and come back. man too is as long as they are a doctor and maybe they have the gift of raising the dead. I'm sure those of secular humanism swallow that much better than praying for one to come back to life.
the problem is God is the only one who gives life and or does raise the dead. Not the doctor. it does not matter if you are dead 5 minutes, 15, or four hours you are not coming back IF GOD does NOT allow it to be so. Those of secular humanism say well he was not dead more than 4 minutes, therefore, he could be brought back. really? that is not what the word of God says. men are more willing to give credit to doctors and for bringing a person back from the dead, then God.
"man in hospital dies on table for 15 minutes doctors use shock treatment and he comes back to life . Did the doctors raise the dead or did God?"
1. if the doctor brought him back the doctor has the power to raise the dead and you are ok with that because it is a doctor.
2. If you agree with that then God is not the only one who controls those who die and come back. man too is as long as they are a doctor and maybe they have the gift of raising the dead. I'm sure those of secular humanism swallow that much better than praying for one to come back to life.
the problem is God is the only one who gives life and or does raise the dead. Not the doctor. it does not matter if you are dead 5 minutes, 15, or four hours you are not coming back IF GOD does NOT allow it to be so. Those of secular humanism say well he was not dead more than 4 minutes, therefore, he could be brought back. really? that is not what the word of God says. men are more willing to give credit to doctors and for bringing a person back from the dead, then God.
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I have? You must be thinking of someone else, christian chat has not hired me or determined to be a teacher, i am here as a guest, to discuss Gods word.
In the context of Christian chat, a moderator shouod be held to th highest standard, because even if someone here is a pastor of a certain church (and there have been many) a moderator has the power to chasten or ban thm giving them the highest responsibility in this setting, whoever is given the highest responsibility is given should be held to the highest standard,
What irony? Your basing your words on feelings which are based on assumptions which again are not true.
In the context of Christian chat, a moderator shouod be held to th highest standard, because even if someone here is a pastor of a certain church (and there have been many) a moderator has the power to chasten or ban thm giving them the highest responsibility in this setting, whoever is given the highest responsibility is given should be held to the highest standard,
oh the irony 
whatever as you say
done with it really. listen. don't listen. not my problem. I handed the note over and it's yours to do with as you please
whatever as you say
done with it really. listen. don't listen. not my problem. I handed the note over and it's yours to do with as you please
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Definitely not what i had in mind the reason i said 'physical resurrection'
Why is it that when it comes to raising the dead then it is said that God can raise the dead but when it comes to speaking in tongues it is said the person is speaking in tongues- aren't all these the doing of one God?
Q. Are there men who God uses to raise the dead physically today like there are plenty who God has put a 'new tongue'?
Why is it that when it comes to raising the dead then it is said that God can raise the dead but when it comes to speaking in tongues it is said the person is speaking in tongues- aren't all these the doing of one God?
Q. Are there men who God uses to raise the dead physically today like there are plenty who God has put a 'new tongue'?
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Who created science?
Man always wants to take credit, never want to give God any credit,
some people have drown d for iver an hour and been brought back, some have been under water for 5 and could not be resuscitated, Even in healing, God heals some and heals others. Whether god uses doctors, or others through the power of prayer, it is always by the will of God.
Man always wants to take credit, never want to give God any credit,
some people have drown d for iver an hour and been brought back, some have been under water for 5 and could not be resuscitated, Even in healing, God heals some and heals others. Whether god uses doctors, or others through the power of prayer, it is always by the will of God.