Guys,
I want to weigh in on this mansion discussion but not from the perspective of whether it is a big house with many rooms or not. I will show that John 14 in no way supports a rapture doctrine.
1 "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.
2 In My Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.
I believe what Jesus is saying in other words is this. He is stating fact that He is going to prepare a place for you (all Christians who will die before He returns). Then He is saying that since that statement is a fact then this next statement is a fact also - I will come again and receive you unto myself and that where I am (it will be on earth for the Millennium) that you will be there with me. So the first "YOU" are Christians who die before the Lord returns and the second "YOU" are Christians who are alive and remaining after the Tribulation.
This is the same way of speaking that Paul uses in 1 Thes 4. He uses one fact to prove another fact, notice both use the word IF?:
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
Paul is saying if we believe that Jesus died and rose again - as a FACT, then believe that God will bring with Him (GOD) those who sleep in Jesus.
In neither passage is Christ or Paul saying that anyone alive was going to be taken to heaven!!!!
Let's not forget, JESUS is GOD. They are one deity. GOD is Omnipresent. So it matters not if there are those in heaven with God and those on earth during the millennium with Christ. Will we not all be with GOD/JESUS/HOLY SPIRIT regardless of where we physically are for the millennium?
I want to weigh in on this mansion discussion but not from the perspective of whether it is a big house with many rooms or not. I will show that John 14 in no way supports a rapture doctrine.
1 "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.
2 In My Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.
I believe what Jesus is saying in other words is this. He is stating fact that He is going to prepare a place for you (all Christians who will die before He returns). Then He is saying that since that statement is a fact then this next statement is a fact also - I will come again and receive you unto myself and that where I am (it will be on earth for the Millennium) that you will be there with me. So the first "YOU" are Christians who die before the Lord returns and the second "YOU" are Christians who are alive and remaining after the Tribulation.
This is the same way of speaking that Paul uses in 1 Thes 4. He uses one fact to prove another fact, notice both use the word IF?:
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
Paul is saying if we believe that Jesus died and rose again - as a FACT, then believe that God will bring with Him (GOD) those who sleep in Jesus.
In neither passage is Christ or Paul saying that anyone alive was going to be taken to heaven!!!!
Let's not forget, JESUS is GOD. They are one deity. GOD is Omnipresent. So it matters not if there are those in heaven with God and those on earth during the millennium with Christ. Will we not all be with GOD/JESUS/HOLY SPIRIT regardless of where we physically are for the millennium?
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