My definition of human freewill is crystal clear if it is nothing else, my definition is there's no such thing. Only God has free sovereign will.
Your post outlines man's condition very well. You say they rebelled against God's will and ended up banished to Babylon to serve 70 years as slaves ... how is that any definition of freewill? you say they chose, but they didn't, they chose neither God's will nor 70 years as slaves ... that is why I say human freewill is a delusion, a deception.
Paul shows in Romans 7 exactly what his condition was before Christ saved him. He says the good which he wanted to do he did not but the evil which he hated is what he did. He cries out "who shall deliver me from this body of death? thanks be to God through Jesus Christ" Chapter 8. Now I am FREE to walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh.
You do have a will but it is not free it is in bondage and it will lead you into greater and greater bondage if you follow it. This is as true for the christian as for the non christian THAT'S what is wrong with the church.
As soon as folks get saved they get brainwashed into believing that they chose God of their own freewill, it is drummed into them relentlessly ... nobody in the bible talks that way. So now they carry on their whole christian walk doing their own freewill and inevitably, as sure as eggs are eggs they fall right back into bondage.
Being FREE is not the same thing as having freewill. Being free is being the person God has made you to be. becoming the NEW you.
You say you chose it, I say God chose it for you when you were uncapable of choosing it for yourself. It's all mercy and grace.
Your post outlines man's condition very well. You say they rebelled against God's will and ended up banished to Babylon to serve 70 years as slaves ... how is that any definition of freewill? you say they chose, but they didn't, they chose neither God's will nor 70 years as slaves ... that is why I say human freewill is a delusion, a deception.
Paul shows in Romans 7 exactly what his condition was before Christ saved him. He says the good which he wanted to do he did not but the evil which he hated is what he did. He cries out "who shall deliver me from this body of death? thanks be to God through Jesus Christ" Chapter 8. Now I am FREE to walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh.
You do have a will but it is not free it is in bondage and it will lead you into greater and greater bondage if you follow it. This is as true for the christian as for the non christian THAT'S what is wrong with the church.
As soon as folks get saved they get brainwashed into believing that they chose God of their own freewill, it is drummed into them relentlessly ... nobody in the bible talks that way. So now they carry on their whole christian walk doing their own freewill and inevitably, as sure as eggs are eggs they fall right back into bondage.
Being FREE is not the same thing as having freewill. Being free is being the person God has made you to be. becoming the NEW you.
You say you chose it, I say God chose it for you when you were uncapable of choosing it for yourself. It's all mercy and grace.